satrow Moderator, BSOD Kernel Dump Senior Analyst Staff member Joined Apr 12, 2012 Posts 972 Location Cymru Aug 18, 2017 #21 usasma said: I tried private browsing on Pale Moon - but the search autofill seems linked (so I'm unsure of what I'm doing). The search box comes up within a second or two, while the search results are almost immediate. Have you compared the Sysnative mirror to the Carrona mirror? Click to expand... Using Carrona.org directly, the DRT loads in ~2 seconds. Search results in well under 0.5 sec. I rarely use private browsing in Pale Moon, my browser uptimes are often in the 6-16 day ballpark unless it's during a beta testing period. I feel private browsing is better suited to short sessions. Search autofill - in the URL (aka Awesome or Location) bar or the separate Search box? If the Location bar, options are found under (Alt) Tools > Options > Privacy > History and Location bar tabs.
usasma said: I tried private browsing on Pale Moon - but the search autofill seems linked (so I'm unsure of what I'm doing). The search box comes up within a second or two, while the search results are almost immediate. Have you compared the Sysnative mirror to the Carrona mirror? Click to expand... Using Carrona.org directly, the DRT loads in ~2 seconds. Search results in well under 0.5 sec. I rarely use private browsing in Pale Moon, my browser uptimes are often in the 6-16 day ballpark unless it's during a beta testing period. I feel private browsing is better suited to short sessions. Search autofill - in the URL (aka Awesome or Location) bar or the separate Search box? If the Location bar, options are found under (Alt) Tools > Options > Privacy > History and Location bar tabs.
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 18, 2017 #22 usasma said: Have you compared the Sysnative mirror to the Carrona mirror? Click to expand... Yes - I've tested both. The time factor for me here has gotten so bad that I keep a tab up/open with the DRT all day long. I honestly don't understand this at all -- the loading times involved here. How can mine be so off? I use IE, but have also tried Firefox, PaleMoon, SeaMonkey, etc... Thank you for your replies. John
usasma said: Have you compared the Sysnative mirror to the Carrona mirror? Click to expand... Yes - I've tested both. The time factor for me here has gotten so bad that I keep a tab up/open with the DRT all day long. I honestly don't understand this at all -- the loading times involved here. How can mine be so off? I use IE, but have also tried Firefox, PaleMoon, SeaMonkey, etc... Thank you for your replies. John
S Sysnative Windows Update Inactive Joined Oct 9, 2014 Posts 773 Aug 18, 2017 #23 It's very strange. You have almost ten times my DL speed and twenty times my UL speed...
Tekno Venus Senior Administrator, Developer Staff member Joined Jul 21, 2012 Posts 7,205 Location UK Aug 19, 2017 #24 This is almost certainly a client side issue, there's very little we can do to speed this up without adding complexity (adding pages to the table for example). From a clear cache, the DRT at Sysnative takes 2-3 seconds to load and become usable. With cache - 0.7 seconds. Times taken from the Firefox developer tools. Running some tests from my preferred speed testing tools (Pingdom Tools and GTMetrix) gives readings of 1.51 s to load from a Dallas, US based machine (Pingdom - Website speed test) and 4.4s from London, UK (Gtmetrix - Latest Performance Report for: https://www.sysnative.com/drivers/ | GTmetrix) The actual PHP code execution is very fast. There's a small line of text at the bottom of the Sysnative DRT now which shows how long it took the PHP code to run (including all the DB queries). Page generated in: 0.071125 seconds. We can't really improve much on 0.07 seconds....
This is almost certainly a client side issue, there's very little we can do to speed this up without adding complexity (adding pages to the table for example). From a clear cache, the DRT at Sysnative takes 2-3 seconds to load and become usable. With cache - 0.7 seconds. Times taken from the Firefox developer tools. Running some tests from my preferred speed testing tools (Pingdom Tools and GTMetrix) gives readings of 1.51 s to load from a Dallas, US based machine (Pingdom - Website speed test) and 4.4s from London, UK (Gtmetrix - Latest Performance Report for: https://www.sysnative.com/drivers/ | GTmetrix) The actual PHP code execution is very fast. There's a small line of text at the bottom of the Sysnative DRT now which shows how long it took the PHP code to run (including all the DB queries). Page generated in: 0.071125 seconds. We can't really improve much on 0.07 seconds....
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 19, 2017 #25 Page generated in: 0.096579 seconds. Click to expand... But I did not have control of the page to do CTRL-F until 12 seconds.
Page generated in: 0.096579 seconds. Click to expand... But I did not have control of the page to do CTRL-F until 12 seconds.
Tekno Venus Senior Administrator, Developer Staff member Joined Jul 21, 2012 Posts 7,205 Location UK Aug 19, 2017 #26 That means your browser is taking ~11 seconds to download and render the HTML. It's a fairly large HTML page (250KB compressed, 1.7MB uncompressed), but that shouldn't take that long. Can you try on a clean install of either Firefox or Chrome? What are your system specs?
That means your browser is taking ~11 seconds to download and render the HTML. It's a fairly large HTML page (250KB compressed, 1.7MB uncompressed), but that shouldn't take that long. Can you try on a clean install of either Firefox or Chrome? What are your system specs?
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 19, 2017 #27 I'll be glad to update alternate browsers, then test them. My system info - from CPU-Z - View attachment 08-19-2017.html.zip Thank you! John
I'll be glad to update alternate browsers, then test them. My system info - from CPU-Z - View attachment 08-19-2017.html.zip Thank you! John
U usasma Retired Admin Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 2,126 Aug 20, 2017 #28 Try creating a new user account and see if that helps.
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 20, 2017 #29 The problem is definitely with IE 11 on my Windows 8.1 HP laptop. When using an alternate browser, the time to load and have access to the table is just a few seconds.
The problem is definitely with IE 11 on my Windows 8.1 HP laptop. When using an alternate browser, the time to load and have access to the table is just a few seconds.
U usasma Retired Admin Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 2,126 Aug 20, 2017 #30 Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies
Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies
writhziden Administrator, .NET/UWP Developer Staff member Joined May 23, 2012 Posts 2,923 Location Colorado Aug 20, 2017 #31 usasma said: Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies Click to expand... That seems to be their official stance. Unofficially, I continue to upgrade to Windows 10 from previous Windows versions without issues. :huh:
usasma said: Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies Click to expand... That seems to be their official stance. Unofficially, I continue to upgrade to Windows 10 from previous Windows versions without issues. :huh:
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 21, 2017 #32 usasma said: Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies Click to expand... I plan to add an SSD to this laptop + install full retail W10 that I got from MSDN.
usasma said: Maybe it's time for a fresh new install? Also, Microsoft still offers free W10 if you use any of the assistive technologies Click to expand... I plan to add an SSD to this laptop + install full retail W10 that I got from MSDN.
U usasma Retired Admin Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 2,126 Aug 21, 2017 #33 I'd try the assistive technology update (or the free method that writhziden mentions) to upgrade your copy of W8 As the W8 is most likely activated online, the W10 should also automatically activate. Switching from HDD to SSD isn't enough to cause a problem with activation (we do it frequently at work and never have issues with it). That way you can save your MSDN W10 for other things you might need it with.
I'd try the assistive technology update (or the free method that writhziden mentions) to upgrade your copy of W8 As the W8 is most likely activated online, the W10 should also automatically activate. Switching from HDD to SSD isn't enough to cause a problem with activation (we do it frequently at work and never have issues with it). That way you can save your MSDN W10 for other things you might need it with.
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore Aug 21, 2017 #34 usasma said: That way you can save your MSDN W10 for other things you might need it with. Click to expand... I have 10 keycodes for each version. I just may upgrade as you all have suggested. Thank you, John
usasma said: That way you can save your MSDN W10 for other things you might need it with. Click to expand... I have 10 keycodes for each version. I just may upgrade as you all have suggested. Thank you, John