No tweaks either. MS OOBE.
Sorry to hear about the RAM.
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No tweaks either. MS OOBE.
Sorry to hear about the RAM.
Seems like I managed to resolve the RAM issue reseating them.
I’m still tweaking a few bios settings to get optimal performance out of the system - and realised my fans were running on DC instead of PWN so were much louder than desired.
Plan at the moment is to swap out some of the Corsair fans for quieter Noctua fans, and add the full number the case can support.
Will likely want to add more storage at some point as well - got quite a few M.2 slots available for use.
I’m still tweaking a few bios settings to get optimal performance out of the system - and realised my fans were running on DC instead of PWN so were much louder than desired.
Plan at the moment is to swap out some of the Corsair fans for quieter Noctua fans, and add the full number the case can support.
Will likely want to add more storage at some point as well - got quite a few M.2 slots available for use.
As Hannibal Smith said on The A Team, " I love it when a plan comes together". 
I ain't quite out of the woods with errors yet - but it's been a fun experience. 
The most concerning one was when the motherboard was trying to read a boot device that wasn't there (afaik), so the only thing that loaded was a blank screen and _ cursor. That one persisted for a couple of restarts, and then I figured both the PC and me could do with some sleep - tried again the next day and everything worked.
Fanspeed is about half the RPM it was before - although the system is still louder than I'd ideally like.
I'll create some new threads to deal with the Sleep / Startup problems I'm occasionally getting.
The most concerning one was when the motherboard was trying to read a boot device that wasn't there (afaik), so the only thing that loaded was a blank screen and _ cursor. That one persisted for a couple of restarts, and then I figured both the PC and me could do with some sleep - tried again the next day and everything worked.
Fanspeed is about half the RPM it was before - although the system is still louder than I'd ideally like.
I'll create some new threads to deal with the Sleep / Startup problems I'm occasionally getting.
I finally reached out to MSI about some of the issues I've been experiencing with the motherboard and they want to RMA the board...
Can't say I particularly want to take the whole thing apart and send it off for a few weeks, but I probably should go through with it.
Can't say I particularly want to take the whole thing apart and send it off for a few weeks, but I probably should go through with it.
Too bad they don't do like some car dealers and give you a loaner while they're fixing yours.
I think I'm going to end up swapping out the motherboard in the new year - this one has given me too many problems. I'll probably buy a new motherboard that should be compatible with all the parts, and then RMA the old one / potentially sell it once it's replaced.
I have never owned an MSI mobo. There is no specific reason other than maybe at the time of my previous builds I read reviews.
For my first 2 major gaming rigs, I went with Gigabyte. No issues. Those had the legacy BIOS.
In my current build, I went with ASUS and, again, read reviews. No issues. I really like the ASUS board and will probably go with ASUS in my next build.
For my first 2 major gaming rigs, I went with Gigabyte. No issues. Those had the legacy BIOS.
In my current build, I went with ASUS and, again, read reviews. No issues. I really like the ASUS board and will probably go with ASUS in my next build.
#3 units. 2> Gigabyte. 1> 13 year old Insyde. Never replaced any of the 3 with heavy use. I know this is anecdotal, but I've observed similar on other peoples' units. EVGA not as good, if they are even still made.
To be fair, this specific motherboard was a first generation AM5 board, and a high end one (but also produced in much lower volumes), and they've done a lot of bugfixes with the firmware since release. The advice I've heard many times is that if you want the least problems, buy the most mainstream hardware.
Although based on the number of PCs and devices in my house, I can't say I try to avoid problems that hard...
My server has an ASUS mobo - haven't had any issues with it. I might try another MSI board for now, or maybe Gigabyte.
The GPU I have is also MSI, and seems to perform pretty well. Their support team were also reasonable enough when I contacted them.
E-ATX compatible MB found on amazon.com (ships to New York):
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I'm open to any manufacturer - the main problems I'm trying to solve are:
AM5 and DDR5 remind me of the XP days... when we all tuned our computers to startup as quickly as possible and disabled any unnecessary services. Unfortunately now with memory training a lot of the motherboards and memory take 50-60 seconds or more to startup before you even get into Windows...
- Ethernet port on this mobo is bad, and needs to be continuously reset when downloading anything significant (e.g. Steam games usually cuts it out)
- Slow startup times - general problem with AM5 and DDR5, but if I can find a replacement that's known to have fast startup times that would be preferred.
- Two monitor display issues - only one monitor connecting after turning on PC, or not connecting to either monitor during POST.
- Generally a bit more stable would be nice.
AM5 and DDR5 remind me of the XP days... when we all tuned our computers to startup as quickly as possible and disabled any unnecessary services. Unfortunately now with memory training a lot of the motherboards and memory take 50-60 seconds or more to startup before you even get into Windows...
Ethernet ports can be replaced but require melting solder which is only the first step. I'd quit before starting. 
My hardware knowledge is quite rusty, but may I ask why the CPU cooler is placed like this (post #11) because this does not improve the airflow of the whole system? Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have always placed coolers on a processor to blow outside the case?
And maybe due the weight of this cooler, it makes a difference how it is mounted on the board? Just some toughts, because I still remember the 'curved' Pentium 4 boards with a lot of issues with aftermark coolers.
And maybe due the weight of this cooler, it makes a difference how it is mounted on the board? Just some toughts, because I still remember the 'curved' Pentium 4 boards with a lot of issues with aftermark coolers.
It might just be how it is in the picture, but the cooler and fans are all mounted to intake air from the front of the case, and expell it from the back. In the case it's mounted like this:
All fans facing backwards to exhaust air in the same direction.
The only thing I didn't get round to doing is installing any fans at the top of the case, as in the image, but the case is generally very cool + temps low, so it's never been a priority. I'd originally intended to replace all of the case fans with Noctua fans, but haven't got round to it yet.
When I look at the picture below, the front fan is on the same side as the backpanel of the motherboard?
I can't remember if there was a reason I attached them on that side, vs on the other side of the cooler - possibly space as the Noctua cooling block is chunky, but I'll check again when I replace the motherboard.
They're all blowing towards the rear of the case though.
They're all blowing towards the rear of the case though.
Now I see it and where I went wrong, Coolermaster and BeQuiet have their company stickers on the front of the cooler and not on the back as by Noctua... 
Noctua NH-D15 + Chromax.black.swap review | Techtesters
Noctua NH-D15 + Chromax.black.swap review | Techtesters
You've made me paranoid enough to make sure I triple check the arrows when I replace the mobo though.
For bad airflow.... unfortunately my server motherboard could barely fit any cooler at all, so the fans blow sideways. The cooler I installed was the third cooler I bought for the case... the motherboard had an unexpected ridge that made most coolers incompatible.
On the plus side, the cooler is pretty good for the load and it's only an i5, so it has very low temps compared to my main system.
For bad airflow.... unfortunately my server motherboard could barely fit any cooler at all, so the fans blow sideways. The cooler I installed was the third cooler I bought for the case... the motherboard had an unexpected ridge that made most coolers incompatible.
On the plus side, the cooler is pretty good for the load and it's only an i5, so it has very low temps compared to my main system.
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