Windows 11 Release Date: October 5, 2021

axe0 said:
I am all for this fluent design
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To this, I do like the design - I just don't like that it is so "fixed".

I note if you right-click the Taskbar in W10, at the very top is the context menu for Toolbars that includes Address, Links and Desktop, and Quick Launch if you enabled that. With W11, Toolbars don't even exist in the entire OS. :(

IMO, one of Windows greatest assets (compared to, for example, Macs) has always been its flexibility or how it can be tweaked and "Personalized" to an individual's own likings.

But I also accept that one of Windows greatest liabilities has always been its flexibility or how it can be tweaked and "Personalized" to an individual's own likings - which often resulted in the user tweaking Windows to death - for which Microsoft quickly received intense and endless blame.

So clearly, locking the Windows 11 UI down so users cannot tweak it to death is probably good for Microsoft - in terms of providing (or not having to provide) technical support or the need to counter the bad PR for something not their fault.

But still, when have we, as humans, ever liked when something is taken away that we always had and enjoyed?
 
Digerati said:
But still, when have we, as humans, ever liked when something is taken away that we always had and enjoyed?
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Never. But, when it comes to OSes and their UIs, you take what the makers produce.

It isn't the first time, and certainly won't be the last, when things change in a way that I, as an individual user, may intensely dislike. At the same time, others will applaud it.

You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. Since we all have distinct tastes there really never can be "the perfect OS" for every taste. You just have to learn to deal, and heaven knows that's way easier to do than fighting every change that comes down the pike, even if that fight is strictly internal.
 
Well, time matters too. As I just posted in a similar discussion on another site,

Most new things seem inefficient at first until we get used to it - then it becomes intuitive and second nature.

I remember when XP first came out, it seemed awkward. But before long, going back to a W98 system made W98 seem awkward. Same complaint when migrating from XP to W7. Going back to an XP system after using W7 for awhile had me staring at the XP monitor for a bit, trying to remember how to do something that was totally intuitive now on W7.

I have no doubt, once I finally get totally used to W11, that it too will become intuitive. But pretty sure I will always miss my Quick Launch toolbar. That is how I always launch most of my programs, including my browser going directly to the sites I visit multiple times each day.
 
As I said in an earlier post here, I upgraded my computer to Windows 11. Although I had a warning that the processor was not supported, I proceeded, I'm getting the updates and everything seems fine.

What I miss from the old Taskbar's tools, is Toolbars. I use to have Recycle Bin on the Taskbar (right side icons group). To do so, I use the Toolbars option, since I don't want just the Recycle Bin as a shortcut. In Windows 11 I can't do that, because no Toolbars option.

Also, I would like a more direct access to Task Manager.

As for the Widgets thing, I find it useless.

Otherwise, every other change is a matter of using the OS and learn (again) about the features got changed. Looking forward to any improvements.
 
DR M said:
I use to have Recycle Bin on the Taskbar (right side icons group). To do so, I use the Toolbars option, since I don't want just the Recycle Bin as a shortcut. In Windows 11 I can't do that, because no Toolbars option.
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I added the Recycle Bin to the Start Menu tab along with other frequently used programs.
 

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