Windows 10 latest cumulative update

Hi seane01. :welcome:

Did you check task manager cpu activities?
I got msmpeng.exe (windows defender) at 50% (when I opened a folder with exe files) and I have been forced to change it (actually I'm using panda antivirus free).
 
Hi Xilolee,

I'm using Eset Smart Security 9, so Windows Defender isn't running on my computer...
 
Hi all


When the system is having horrible slowdowns, use Task Manager to see what is using far-above-average resources [right-click the Taskbar and select Task Manager from the list]. Look at the graphs for high CPU usage, high memory usage, high disk access usage, or high network usage. If the trouble is in a "SVCHOST.exe" process, right-click that process and select "Go to Services" to see what service running inside that host is causing the high usage ... a little article showing how to do that is over at "How To Geek"
What is svchost.exe And Why Is It Running?

Some users have had slowdowns that seem to center on their antivirus package - everything from Windows Defender to BitDefender...... Often uninstalling and reinstalling seems to help.

Let us know if the problem suddenly "fixes itself" ... this might happen for some users, if the update happens to include a lot of .NET updates. The reason is that .NET updates often cause a few runs of the ".NET Optimization Service" - which is a huge resource hog. But luckily it is a temporary hog. It should completely finish its work after a run or two. It shouldn't run again unless another update for .NET arrives.

Let us know if nothing is helping, and you want more things to try.
 
A few days ago i uninstalled/installed Eset smart security 9, but that didn't help.

Memory usage is at 34% most of the time, CPU has sometimes really high peakes, "C:" as well.
explorer.exe, SearchUI.exe, TiWorker.exe, NvStreamUserAgent.exe, mms_mini.exe, ShellExperienceHost.exe, SearchIndexer.exe and dwm.exe varies from 50 MB memory usage to 20 MB.
 
Hi again


Your memory usage sounds reasonable, especially if you have a system with 4 GB of system memory. About 1.3 to 1.6 GBs in use isn't too unusual. Some Draconian trimming can sometimes get the usage down just below 1 GB, but opening a browser with a fair amount of tabs in use can boost it right back up to the 1.6 GB range.
I'm guessing your slowdowns are cpu/disk usage based. You can make sure that you don't have services running that you don't want (if you don't need the "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service", for example, that is a service that can use a fair amount of cpu/disk resources -- I've seen it show spikes of high usage on computers of my customers who never in a million years would have needed it). Other things to look at: check to make sure only the defaults are being indexed for Windows Search (Control Panel - Indexing Options) ... indexing stuff you don't need indexed is a sure waste of resources. If you don't use Cortana, you can turn Cortana off, and just use plain old Search (you can always turn Cortana back on should you wish to).

Since you have the Nvidia streaming game service running, see if uninstalling the Nvidia drivers - and then reinstalling the latest version - using the "Custom" install method, and the "clean install" option, and opting out of the unnecessary add-ons - helps. It has for some users.
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High memory usage doesn't usually slow you down much until it's well over 60% or so. High disk and cpu activity, on the other hand, can be noticeable as low as 40% or so. Up around 90% usage for disk or cpu is when we start drumming our fingers to pass the time waiting for things to speed up.

It is an option to uninstall the update (Start-Settings-Updates & security-Windows Update-Advanced Options-View Your Update History-Uninstall updates). It takes a while, but several users report seeing their systems running normally again after removing the update. If you choose this route, you might want to:
1) Download and use a Microsoft tool to let you block a particular update from installing
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930
Or
2) [if you have Windows 10 Pro] Use Group Policy to configure Windows Updates to notify you and let you choose whether to install
Disable / Turn Off Automatic Updates In Windows 1, Here's How | Redmond Pie

If you choose the uninstall/block route, I'd recommend checking fairly regularly to see if the problem is resolved with a follow-up update. Usually when a Windows Update has a bad effect on enough systems, Microsoft will patch the problem with a follow-up update. If/when that happens, you can set updates back to Automatic if you'd like.

Let us know if you have questions
 
Thanks OldGrayGary for all the info.

Is it a good idea to fully turn off indexing?
Maybe I'll wait for a fix and follow-up update from Microsoft as you say...
 
Hi again

I haven't heard of anyone completely turning off indexing, but I know that some users with SSDs have turned off the "Superfetch" service, which I imagine does some indexing of its own. The Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service is completely unnecessary if you don't use Media Player.

It won't hurt to keep an eye on things ... the next Patch Tuesday, since they usually happen on the 2nd or 4th Tuesday of the month for the current version of Windows - will likely come June 14th. Maybe a little performance boost patch will undo any performance slowdowns caused by the May/April patches.

Windows 10 is like a young teenager in a growth spurt ... changing all the time!
 
OldGrayGary said:
I haven't heard of anyone completely turning off indexing, ..
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You have now - I've not used it since it was introduced with XP, I know where my files are stored :)

On the (very) rare occasions I need to search inside files, I fire up Agent Ransack, it's pretty quick and subsequent session searches are as fast as anything. Agent Ransack - Free File Searching Utility
 
OldGrayGary said:
Hi all


When the system is having horrible slowdowns, use Task Manager to see what is using far-above-average resources [right-click the Taskbar and select Task Manager from the list]. Look at the graphs for high CPU usage, high memory usage, high disk access usage, or high network usage. If the trouble is in a "SVCHOST.exe" process, right-click that process and select "Go to Services" to see what service running inside that host is causing the high usage ... a little article showing how to do that is over at "How To Geek"
What is svchost.exe And Why Is It Running?

Some users have had slowdowns that seem to center on their antivirus package - everything from Windows Defender to BitDefender...... Often uninstalling and reinstalling seems to help.

Let us know if the problem suddenly "fixes itself" ... this might happen for some users, if the update happens to include a lot of .NET updates. The reason is that .NET updates often cause a few runs of the ".NET Optimization Service" - which is a huge resource hog. But luckily it is a temporary hog. It should completely finish its work after a run or two. It shouldn't run again unless another update for .NET arrives.

Let us know if nothing is helping, and you want more things to try.
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Very nice, Gary!
 
Thank you all for your help!

My computer is still running slow after turning off Superfetch and Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service, I guess I'll have to wait for the next Windows update...
 
If the next round of updates don't help, you do still have the option to uninstall the update - and block it's re-installation until the performance issues are patched.

And maybe check to see if Eset has any recently added updates or patches to its program modules.

Let's hope for a speedup sooner rather than later...
 
I updated some drivers manually in device management, Windows didn't do this automatically.
Most problems are solved now, but my computer is still starting up slower than before the update...
 
Hi again

Glad to hear that your latest driver updates helped your devices run well.

For the slowness at system startup, you can look in the "Startup" tab of Task Manager (you can right-click the taskbar and select Task Manager to run it). If anything in the Startup list there looks like something you don't use, and don't ever plan to use, you can right-click that task and select "Disable". For example, if you see OneDrive in the Startup tab list, and you don't want to use OneDrive, you can disable it's startup task. If you have any questions about whether a startup is crucial or not, you can ask us & we can check to see if it's necessary or unnecessary. Also - if you disabled "Fast Startup" as part of your previous troubleshooting, you can re-enable it now that things are working better.

To Enable Fast Startup in Windows 10


1) Right-click the Windows 10 Start menu icon
2) Select Power Options.
3) Select Choose what the power buttons do.
4) Select Change settings that are currently unavailable.
5) Scroll down to Shutdown settings, and place a checkmark in the option box "Turn on fast startup".
6) Select Save changes to save and exit.

Let's hope that things are both speedy and error-free.
 
Hello OldGrayGary,

Thanks for the fast response.

Are these necessary:

- schedhlp.exe Acronis Scheduler Service Helper
- TibMounterMonitor.exe Acronis TIB Mounter Monitor
- NvBackend.exe NVIDIA Backend
- rundll32.exe NVIDIA Capture Server Proxy

I use Acronis 2016 (latest version), but i'm not sure everything is deleted from previous versions.
 
Hi again

The first two, the Acronis apps, probably should be allowed to keep starting each startup. They provide features that you are likely to need, especially if you do scheduled backups using Acronis.

The second pair, the Nvidia apps .... well, these are a bit more according-to-your-needs. It is entirely possible that you don't need them to run at startup. They are a part of the "Nvidia GeForce Experience" modules - which some users decide to do without entirely. You can choose whether or not to install the "GeForce Experience" applets during your installation of the full driver package. Along with the Nvidia network-streaming modules (which some users choose not to use), as many as five different background modules can run as part of the GeForce Experience services. Depending on your needs, you can disable/enable some of these according to what you need, or even disable/uninstall all of them.

Here's a guide to the background processes commonly found in the latest Nvidia full driver packages - it tells what each one does, and how to disable/uninstall those that you decide to do without:
Disable NVIDIA Streamer Service and other NVIDIA processes - gHacks Tech News

Cheers
 
Everything seems to work fine, although starting up is still slower than before. Guess I'll have to live with this... :)
I'm really glad I found help here and I learned a few things too.

Thank you!
 
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 ... more updates arrived today for most Windows 10 PCs ... I didn't notice anything specific to audio issues, but perhaps bit-by-bit things will keep improving.

Cheers
 
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