automatically deselecting windows

[Digerati]

My interference? Oh, so sorry, just trying to help, if that disturbs you, so sorry, i'm not a MS MVP but it's not like i'm talking out of my rear here.

MVP has nothing to do with this. You are new here, perhaps new to forums, so you need to understand that once the malware removal process starts, changes made by the OP not directed by the malware removal expert can skew results, cause confusion, and in some cases, make matters worse. Note too that is not unique to this forum, but virtually all tech support forums.

And while you may not be talking out your rear, your insistence that McAfee is trash is unfounded and clearly personal. While I already stated I don't like it either, it is an effective anti-malware solution and has continuously received certification at major labs as shown here:

ICSA Labs
WestCoast Labs
AV-Test

But as I stated previously, even the best is worthless if the user opens the door and lets the badguy in, and that is what appears to have happened here. So you are welcome to help and give your opinion. It is not my place to prevent that. But it is important to be accurate and to not interfere with the malware removal experts, but wait until they have cleared the machine.

 

[goldfish]

My interference? Oh, so sorry, just trying to help, if that disturbs you, so sorry, i'm not a MS MVP but it's not like i'm talking out of my rear here.

MVP has nothing to do with this. You are new here, perhaps new to forums, so you need to understand that once the malware removal process starts, changes made by the OP not directed by the malware removal expert can skew results, cause confusion, and in some cases, make matters worse. Note too that is not unique to this forum, but virtually all tech support forums.

And while you may not be talking out your rear, your insistence that McAfee is trash is unfounded and clearly personal. While I already stated I don't like it either, it is an effective anti-malware solution and has continuously received certification at major labs as shown here:

ICSA Labs
WestCoast Labs
AV-Test

But as I stated previously, even the best is worthless if the user opens the door and lets the badguy in, and that is what appears to have happened here. So you are welcome to help and give your opinion. It is not my place to prevent that. But it is important to be accurate and to not interfere with the malware removal experts, but wait until they have cleared the machine.

Well, i'm going to apologize because i did not see he was receiving assistance from malware removal team as this topic is still open... this is also some rules in what you call "tech" forums, some mods should close this then.

And what does that links prove? No real time perfomance or detections rate, as i don't know that company who's supposedly testing it independently, why should i trust that results? Since in one of that websites McAfee is almost above all AV's in the supposed "quality bar ranking"... is that for me to LoL?

Whatever, discussion over, my opinion isn't changing, neither the million of others who recommend not just "not installing" as well as uninstalling if that doesn't seem redundant and you do get my point.

 

[Digerati]

i did not see he was receiving assistance from malware removal team as this topic is still open...
some mods should close this then.

That is why it is important to read all the responses and follow the flow before responding. And no, this should not be closed because once the system is reported to be rid of malware, it may resume here.

why should i trust that results?

Because they are independent labs. Users reviews are done by users and users rarely have the training or expertise, comparative products, realistic test scenarios, the discipline or tools to properly test anything. Therefore, user reviews should not be trusted. The only time I might trust users reviews is when researching a product under consideration for purchase, and even then, I only trust them if many users report the exact same problem which might indicate a trend.

my opinion isn't changing, neither the million of others who recommend not just "not installing" as well as uninstalling if that doesn't seem redundant and you do get my point.

"Millions of others who recommend..."? See, that just illustrates my point about posting accurate, unbiased information for that clearly is not accurate - but rather it is a gross exaggeration, likely based on your personal biases. The fact is, there are millions of McAfee users who are happy with it.

That said, AGAIN, I said I don't like McAfee either but you will note I stated why. I am not trying, nor do I want to change your opinion of McAfee. I just want you to post accurate information when giving advice. Simply saying, and repeating that it is "complete trash" is hardly anything but a personal bash. And attempting to rationalize it with exaggerated figures does no one a service.

 

[goldfish]

i did not see he was receiving assistance from malware removal team as this topic is still open...
some mods should close this then.

That is why it is important to read all the responses and follow the flow before responding. And no, this should not be closed because once the system is reported to be rid of malware, it may resume here.

why should i trust that results?

Because they are independent labs. Users reviews are done by users and users rarely have the training or expertise, comparative products, realistic test scenarios, the discipline or tools to properly test anything. Therefore, user reviews should not be trusted. The only time I might trust users reviews is when researching a product under consideration for purchase, and even then, I only trust them if many users report the exact same problem which might indicate a trend.

my opinion isn't changing, neither the million of others who recommend not just "not installing" as well as uninstalling if that doesn't seem redundant and you do get my point.

"Millions of others who recommend..."? See, that just illustrates my point about posting accurate, unbiased information for that clearly is not accurate - but rather it is a gross exaggeration, likely based on your personal biases. The fact is, there are millions of McAfee users who are happy with it.

That said, AGAIN, I said I don't like McAfee either but you will note I stated why. I am not trying, nor do I want to change your opinion of McAfee. I just want you to post accurate information when giving advice. Simply saying, and repeating that it is "complete trash" is hardly anything but a personal bash. And attempting to rationalize it with exaggerated figures does no one a service.

Just for that comment "there are millions of McAfee users happy", just like me, gross exaggeration.
But no, my comments are in what i've seen in the web so far in what you call "tech" forums, and i may be new to this one but...

 

[Digerati]

Just for that comment "there are millions of McAfee users happy", just like me, gross exaggeration.

Actually, it is not an exaggeration as a simple search would show they have a greater market share than many other recognized products. And considering there are more than 1 billion Windows users out there, that is a lot, even if only 5% of the market. But it is clear your mind is set and this has gone OT enough. But thanks for admitting your figure was a gross exaggeration.

 

[goldfish]

Just for that comment "there are millions of McAfee users happy", just like me, gross exaggeration.

Actually, it is not an exaggeration as a simple search would show they have a greater market share than many other recognized products. And considering there are more than 1 billion Windows users out there, that is a lot, even if only 5% of the market. But it is clear your mind is set and this has gone OT enough. But thanks for admitting your figure was a gross exaggeration.

I did say it was an exaggeration because i do not know the numbers, the market, nor i do care, i just speak for what i've seen in dozens of your-so-called "tech" forums, they all tell you the same.

And yours is an exaggeration, because if they have a huge market, doesn't mean people like it or they're "happy" with it, as i explained before, it comes in most of the main sites like flash player as a green checkbox suggestion to install, and many do, it's what i call "Junkware that we wasn't even searching at the first place".

 

[Lussy29]

ok....tnx everyone for all the help you are giving to me!! really!!
I'm following the instructions that Corinne just imparted me in the Security Arena forum.
once that is done (and hopefully the deselecting windows glitch is gone) do you think it would be ok to uninstall McAfee and have windows defender back on track and in case pay for MBAM Pro?
would this be sufficiently protecting me?:r1:

 

[goldfish]

ok....tnx everyone for all the help you are giving to me!! really!!
I'm following the instructions that Corinne just imparted me in the Security Arena forum.
once that is done (and hopefully the deselecting windows glitch is gone) do you think it would be ok to uninstall McAfee and have windows defender back on track and in case pay for MBAM Pro?
would this be sufficiently protecting me?:r1:

I would recomend uninstalling McAfee, but i know the user above me previous post would not support this, however, windows defender doesn't protect you fully, at least if you're using Winodws 7, it was changed in 8.
I'd recommend ESET Smart security if your willing to afford one, if not, MSE or Avira free is also good.
Though you can use malwarebytes week to week, it's not really an AV, so, it wasn't developed to be treated as one and it's best to use it with a real antivirus, malwarebytes works differently from antivirus programs, this is from their website:

"Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not meant to be a replacement for antivirus software. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a complementary but essential program which detects and removes zero-day malware and "Malware in the Wild". This includes malicious programs and files, such as virus droppers, worms, trojans, rootkits, dialers, spyware, and rogue applications that many antivirus programs do not detect or cannot fully remove. That being said, there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors. It is important to note that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware works well and should run alongside antivirus software without conflicts. In some rare instances, exclusions may need to be set for your specific antivirus product to achieve the best possible system performance."

 

[Lussy29]

I got Windows 8 running on my laptop....

 

[goldfish]

I got Windows 8 running on my laptop....

Well, as i do not own an win8 machine, my answers would have to be based on what i've searched in the last minute, and the answer seems that it's not enough protection, however if you want to see reviews for yourself, as i can't right now, you can search or follow up https://www.google.pt/search?num=20....0....0...1c.1.29.serp..10.15.820.hRUuvMd3L2s

I can't help you with windows8, as my answers would be google-based and for me that it's not quite accurate if i don't spend few part of my day searching, which i can't right now, sorry.

My personal opinion and what i've seen this long years in windows defender and what i've searched until now, would conclude that windows defender is not enough, and you should disable any real-time protection it may have and install a decent AV, (i'm not discrediting what i've said above, keep in mind.)

 

[Digerati]

I would recomend uninstalling McAfee, but i know the user above me previous post would not support this, however, windows defender doesn't protect you fully, at least if you're using Winodws 7, it was changed in 8.
I'd recommend ESET Smart security if your willing to afford one, if not, MSE or Avira free is also good.

With all due respect, DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH! That is not cool!

I already said "paying for an anti-malware solution when there are several capable free alternatives available...makes no sense". So I have no problems recommending uninstalling McAfee when the subscription expires. But to Lussy29's issues, what I said was wait until the malware removal experts clear the system before replacing the anti-malware solution. But you keep pushing to do it now when the malware removal process is still ongoing! That's the interference I was talking about, which you apologized for, and are now ignoring. :banghead:

It also clear you don't understand Windows Defender. With Windows 7 and earlier versions, WD is an anti-spyware solution and when you install MSE, WD is automatically disabled because MSE includes the same anti-spyware engine. Therefore, I would never, and did NOT suggest using WD only in W7.

In W8, MSE was enhanced and renamed to Windows Defender (another MS naming misstep IMO, but that's for another discussion), then included in W8. So WD in W8, along with Windows Firewall, also included in W8, is a full anti-malware solution.

As for your pushing of ESET, note Lussy29 stated yesterday he is running W8. Also note ESET is EXPENSIVE!!! It costs $60 to buy. And that's for installation on 1 computer, plus $45 yearly renewal fees. McAfee costs $56 with $49 renewal fees, but you can install it on 3 computers! But why when there are several free, fully capable alternatives?

No product is perfect. Not WD, not ESET, not Norton, not McAfee. And just like browsers, you can find reviews that say this one is best and that one is worst. This is why I also recommended using MBAM with WD - but only AFTER the malware removal process is complete.

 

[Lussy29]

of course I'm gonna go for another AV and maybe the MBAM PRO ONLY AFTER THAT THE CLEANING PROCESS IS DONE!!!!
not taking any step now till I'm done with the malware removal process!!!!!
thanks...I'll keep u posted!!!!

 

[goldfish]

ok....tnx everyone for all the help you are giving to me!! really!!
I'm following the instructions that Corinne just imparted me in the Security Arena forum.
once that is done (and hopefully the deselecting windows glitch is gone) do you think it would be ok to uninstall McAfee and have windows defender back on track and in case pay for MBAM Pro?
would this be sufficiently protecting me?:r1:

What am i ignoring or interfering here? Are you blind?

 

[Corrine]

Ok, folks, let's let Lussy29 make the decision on what she wants to run on her computer. A/V product preferences are often based on what work best on a person's computer, how frequently the definitions are updated, the number of f/p's or what their significant other uses.

 

[Digerati]

of course I'm gonna go for another AV and maybe the MBAM PRO ONLY AFTER THAT THE CLEANING PROCESS IS DONE!!!!
not taking any step now till I'm done with the malware removal process!!!!!
thanks...I'll keep u posted!!!!

Super! And MBAM Pro is an excellent choice. But note as correctly stated earlier, MBAM Pro should be used in conjunction with another anti-malware product, and while not free, it is a low, one-time cost.

And thanks for the calming voice of reason, Corrine.

 

[Deek]

I've seen this a bunch...Another program is stealing focus...most common offenders are TPlink software, External HDD software you don't need, and "free" screen savers.

The first step of course is to get the machine free of malware and such, use a program like process explore to see what process is stealing focus (the cpu counter will spike a tiny bit right when it happens)...or you can just google

"something is stealing focus from active window"

Let me know if you need any help getting your PC clean...in a nutshell Malwarebytes, eset online free scanner, avast boot scan, and tdsskiller should do the trick.

Deek

 

[Corrine]

Hi, Lussy29. I've posted a response to your thread in the Security Arena here: https://www.sysnative.com/forums/se...omatically-deselecting-windows.html#post57262

Lussy29 is already getting help. This thread closed.