HI DPC latency nvlddmkm.sys/dxgkrnl.sys +USB port disconnecting

Hi again

Glad that you were able to escape the latest Nvidia driver update and roll back without any other issues. The unstable driver situation for high-end system audio (games, video/audio production) reminds me of the release of a few other not-quite-ready-for-prime-time versions of Windows: especially Windows "Millennium" ("WinME") and Windows Vista. It wasn't so much the operating system itself, it was that the drivers for the OS weren't mature enough. Seems that history is repeating itself.

For most mainstream systems, Windows 10 is a decent system (though I wish that the "Universal" apps weren't so flaky .. at least the desktop programs all run well). It doesn't surprise me that Nvidia is in the thick of the driver whirlpool.... they make wonderfully advanced hardware, but good heavens, I've never enjoyed having a system that relied on their software (really no fun when they also write the system [chipset] drivers....) . . . . . This all might improve by later this year, if things follow the patterns of the past...

I wonder if the issue you are thinking of -- the one that caused trouble early this year, was the SPP service causing excessively high resource usage. I haven't seen that on a system here locally, but I did notice news of it on some of the tech sites. I believe the SPP service was fixed by a later update.

I hope your hearing checks out OK ... it is nice to have good hearing, especially for enjoying good music.

....and thanks again for letting everyone here know that the 365.19 drivers caused trouble immediately upon their installation. That should save a few folks some time & headaches....

Cheers
 
Indeed . It is why most audio mixers, composers upgrade their windows during the last 1-2 yrs of the life cycle. Steinberg and Pro tools were notoriously late to the party and didn't have stable support for keyboards and plugins until 3-4 yrs after Windows 7 came out. Those two have been much quicker these days; and FL studio being driver ready in the first month of Windows 10, but in general the audio gurus are always latest. This is the first time that I have upgraded my Windows in the first year, due to the strict deadline. Windows 7 performed pretty remarkably for me, and Win 8.1 was a few steps forward but some step back in a way.

Yea, I haven't met any non gamers /pros/hobbyists who complained about Win 10. Only my friends who are online gamers, video editors and so forth.

--Well any update on that SPP? I downloaded all the Windows updates, and the fix that you linked only worked for Windows 7. I guess we're stuck with it?

-Btw, what is your antivirus solution of choice ? I did stick with Bitdefender because it wiped out a virus that all the major solutions could not, but it was not compatible with windows 10 or my network driver. I went to Avira, and although doesn't detect hard to reach viruses as Bitdefender, its not choking my computer performance .

As far as overall performance goes, it seems ok. Right now I'm still getting some orange/yellow packet loss markers in Battlefield 4 around every 4-5 minutes of gameplay. I really don't know the cause though. These are on very local servers. It may be the servers itself are having a hard time. But at least its not in the red zone for the entire match as with the other driver.

--In Conclusion:
It seems my only real option is to wait for Nvidia's driver to reach the next big update or reinstall Windows 8.1. But I think I can live with windows in its current state. MSI and Steelseries has done their part recently. I think it might be a headache for the time I'd spend going back to win 8.1, reinstalling updated drivers for that, and then go back to win 10 when the drivers improve in a couple of months.

Well, I'm glad to contribute something here! I'll be having more questions to pry out of you guys in other threads. Seems out of all the forums I go to, this one has the answers or at least gets me on the path to find them. :) Thanks for the luck!
 
Glad that your efforts have yielded some positive results - you've put in a lot of work. I wish we could wave a magic wand and cure the current driver issues, but I haven't yet found the way to the Hogwart's Express and Station 9 3/4 ....

You'd asked what antivirus I use. Because my computers are mostly mainstream models, I use Avast free antivirus & have the built-in Windows firewall on. The latest version of Avast runs a brief rootkit and system files scan the first time you turn on your computer every day, so it might not be a great choice for gamers (it might have a bit too much overhead). Like BitDefender, it rates high on the blocking, detection, and removal scores. Avast comes with the "Shields" set to a "Sensitivity" level of "Medium", which I immediately change to "High". It's a nice jump in it's detection ratings to have it set to High. And it scans everything: local I/O, Internet traffic, email, messaging, .... and has heuristic monitoring as well. Unfortunately, you also have to turn on the option to "Scan for PUPs" (the "potentially unwanted programs") - but that setting is also easy to enable. I just wish it was turned on by default. Many of the systems I clean up here in my repair work have quite a lot of the PUP type software -- some aren't horrible enough to be labeled "viruses" - but they tend to invite unwanted friends, clog a PC with ads, not help the computer in any way, and generally misbehave.

Since you've been working so hard on the recent audio/video issues, if these sessions were classes, you'd be close to receiving some sort of certificate or diploma. Your one of the experts now :)

Cheers
 
lol one of the experts? nahh way XD :dance:
Just so much to learn! Building PC's are one thing, but having in depth knowledge of Windows is another. By the time you learn one windows, a new one will be out with new problems that will override your previous knowledge :P
Well it seems your clients and business all rely on very high settings so it would not be ideal for me. I found some Avast in the past to actually delete some of my audio plugin instruments. I'm like what?? I paid for that!! So I had to stop using Avast.

So the issue right now is I'm experiencing some CLick input lag where my mouse doesn't respond immediately in game with Battlefield 4. seems Ok elsewhere, not sure.
Seems like these Windows 10 issues are like Hydra. Cut off one head and another rises..
I suppose when time allows I'll just use my 8.1 Image and install from that.

OldGrayGary said:
Glad that your efforts have yielded some positive results - you've put in a lot of work. I wish we could wave a magic wand and cure the current driver issues, but I haven't yet found the way to the Hogwart's Express and Station 9 3/4 ....

You'd asked what antivirus I use. Because my computers are mostly mainstream models, I use Avast free antivirus & have the built-in Windows firewall on. The latest version of Avast runs a brief rootkit and system files scan the first time you turn on your computer every day, so it might not be a great choice for gamers (it might have a bit too much overhead). Like BitDefender, it rates high on the blocking, detection, and removal scores. Avast comes with the "Shields" set to a "Sensitivity" level of "Medium", which I immediately change to "High". It's a nice jump in it's detection ratings to have it set to High. And it scans everything: local I/O, Internet traffic, email, messaging, .... and has heuristic monitoring as well. Unfortunately, you also have to turn on the option to "Scan for PUPs" (the "potentially unwanted programs") - but that setting is also easy to enable. I just wish it was turned on by default. Many of the systems I clean up here in my repair work have quite a lot of the PUP type software -- some aren't horrible enough to be labeled "viruses" - but they tend to invite unwanted friends, clog a PC with ads, not help the computer in any way, and generally misbehave.

Since you've been working so hard on the recent audio/video issues, if these sessions were classes, you'd be close to receiving some sort of certificate or diploma. Your one of the experts now :)

Cheers
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Hi again

Agents of Shield/Avengers fans (and fans of classical mythology) should enjoy the "Hydra" reference :)

If you decide to go back to Windows 8.1, there is a way to keep your option to upgrade to Windows 10 (for free) - even past the July 29 2016 deadline. It's a bit tedious, and it involves reinstalling your old Windows (8.1), then doing the online upgrade to Windows 10, then "rolling back" to your Windows 8.1 again. It keeps the Windows 10 upgrade license on file at Microsoft this way. A bit time-consuming, but might save some dollars:
How to lock in your free Windows 1 upgrade and keep using your old Windows version | ZDNet

In fact, you might not have to jump through any hoops at all, since you already upgraded to 10 - if you check an item in your current Windows 10 installation. Click the Start menu icon, select Settings, select Update and security, select Activation .... if you see "Windows 10 on this device is activated using digital entitlement" ... then you are already listed on the Microsoft activation servers (and don't have to do the reinstall/install/roll-back dance).

It would be a true irony if the new SteelSeries drivers fix the disconnect issue at the cost of new click-delays.
 
LOL! At Steelseries. You know, i went to the forum on Reddit and its crawling with TONS of pissed off users who upgraded the firmware. Some of them said it made their headset incompatible and some don't have a working mouse at all now. SHEESH! Who knows what will happen with this new firmware back in my old Windows 8.1 This is what happens when you over complicate something simple such as a mouse . Their newest model has an OLED screen on it. I mean, who's gonna look at the status updates while gaming? So you see you got a head shot, but the time it takes you to look back up you will be head shot yourself. The irony :P Imagine all of the cluttered software you will deal with then!

When budget allows, I'll probably get the FINAL MOUSE. It's got the same sensor, but it is software free and is 60% of the weight. Problem is cost and availability is scarce.

I guess I have good news then! I'm already activated with digital entitlement :)

PS: Been watching Agents of SHIELD up to the latest episode :)
 
[..... we haven't caught up with "Agents of Shield" yet, but it's waiting for us on our DVR .... now all we need is some time when all the family can watch together (more fun that way) :) ]

If you're lucky, maybe the high-quality mouse we're hoping for will go on sale soon .... (here in Southern California, the stores are already advertising Memorial Day weekend sales ... some of the sales are even starting early) .... better equipment at lesser prices (gotta love the price drops for electronics!)

Cheers
 
OldGrayGary said:
[..... we haven't caught up with "Agents of Shield" yet, but it's waiting for us on our DVR .... now all we need is some time when all the family can watch together (more fun that way) :) ]

If you're lucky, maybe the high-quality mouse we're hoping for will go on sale soon .... (here in Southern California, the stores are already advertising Memorial Day weekend sales ... some of the sales are even starting early) .... better equipment at lesser prices (gotta love the price drops for electronics!)

Cheers
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Wow, 3 seasons have just finished!
Oh yes, I remember costing my Dad his months salary for our 486 dx2 66mhz computer, he settled for no less than the top pc at the time for his job and the family.

Speaking of, I just got in my new monitor and plugged it in via Displayport. I was wondering why the colors looked so horrendous and couldn't be adjusted well. I checked my Control panel and it seems NVIDIA reset all my values from 0-255 FULL to 16-235. Why must it do that every time? I have to keep changing it back. I changed this and all is good

So a small update here: I was in Bf4 and noticed my ping jumping sky high to 289 ! While on a 30 avg ping server. I noticed my mouse not responding quickly to my clicks and then I went to CTRL ALT DEL and noticed "NVIDIA USER EXPERIENCE"
Turns out NVIDIA USER EXPERIENCE is still on my computer, despite reinstalling the driver from clean and removing Geforce experience. There is no place to actually uninstall it, and it doesn't seem to appear on the program files/x86 either.

I stop this task and the ping goes back to normal , and I can continue using my PC normally again. Then about 30 minutes later, it would restart its service. Why is WIN 10 so persistent in keeping services open that really wreck the computer? This one program really chokes the bandwidth for some reason. Is it uploading something? Downloading? I can't tell what it can possibly request.

SO I guess Steelseries is out of the being on Trial.

I just emailed Nvidia to see if they have an answer for me this time.
I just hope those screaming on chat try going to their task manager to stop it when in play.

EDIT : just found this . I'm surely not imagining anything! PSA:High fps but un-smooth gameplay? Uninstall Geforce Experience : GlobalOffensive
 
Hi again

You know, I didn't pay that much attention to the service earlier, but I've actually seen it slow things down even on some low-powered business computers with unimpressive specs. You'd think they'd scale it's activity based on the environment/system.

I'll see if I can check on it a bit later, since I seem to remember something odd about that service, and a different one that involves an Nvidia network driver.....

....always an adventure with Nvidia drivers ...


[....did your 486 come with "Windows for Workgroups"? (also called "Windows 3.11") That was one of my favorite versions of Windows. Windows 95 ran pretty well on a 486 ... when the Pentium line came out, those old computers had pretty good response times.... ]
 
Well, just updating my thread. I already sent a PM to Gary here and we talked about it..

--SYSTEM went to BSOD during game time of Battlefield 4. I then could not recover my Windows!
I had no choice but to revert to Win 8.1 .
My system really hated Windows 10!
That wasn't that smooth, so I had to do a fresh install.
Looks like I'll be waiting til next big update of Windows 10 to come back.
The search engine for Win 8.1 is totally broken, unlike 10 where it works!

ALSO:
The Nvidia user experience cannot be removed from the computer, so might as well install the official version. The Task Manager process only version is more buggy and laggy to Battlefield 4 than the one in the taskbar. At least in the taskbar I can end the process easier than it popping up every 20 minutes. The GWX install Windows 10 also creates massive lag.
most of my 1 v 1 kills last night showed me shooting a guy for 10 bullets point blank with my AEK, but the enemy pulling his gun after the fact and then me getting killed. Obviously this is a visual lag error!
 

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