Not sure what you mean, this laptop shipped with windows 7 when I got it 4 yrs ago... This is just a fresh install with the drivers from ASUS website. Thing is, the touchpad is dead under linux, too... So then either hardware or BIOS. I have the latest BIOS, you think flashing it again is a good idea?
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[SOLVED] PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA BSOD - Windows 7 x64
- Thread starter shura
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It was just an example, I wasn't speaking literally.
No, that won't help for a touchpad issue. It's a driver issue, and if there's no latest driver for it than you already have, not much you can do. Disable it and use a mouse as a workaround if it's that bad.
Regards,
Patrick
No, that won't help for a touchpad issue. It's a driver issue, and if there's no latest driver for it than you already have, not much you can do. Disable it and use a mouse as a workaround if it's that bad.
Regards,
Patrick
Linux and Windows are two entirely different operating systems. They are not even close to being the same, and have entirely different kernels. Device drivers for Windows differ greatly from device drivers on Linux, and AFAIK have an entirely different file extension (LKM, I believe).
With that said, your touchpad absolutely does not have drivers for Linux as it was designed and tested to work with Windows 7 by the manufacturer. With that said, they also designed and tested drivers for Windows 7 only, not any other OS (XP, Vista, 8, 8.1, Linux, Mac OS X... whatever). This is why it doesn't work at all in Linux. To Linux, you don't even have an existing touchpad device. It doesn't even see it, because there are no drivers communicating with the operating system itself. Linux doesn't have device discovery (and auto download of device drivers when needed) like Windows does.
Some food for thought, most vendors (well... mostly all except maybe nVidia, AMD, etc) don't design Linux drivers, so it's up to independent programmers to write drivers for Linux. This is why there are either:
A - No drivers.
B - Really bad/buggy/out of date drivers.
Regards,
Patrick
With that said, your touchpad absolutely does not have drivers for Linux as it was designed and tested to work with Windows 7 by the manufacturer. With that said, they also designed and tested drivers for Windows 7 only, not any other OS (XP, Vista, 8, 8.1, Linux, Mac OS X... whatever). This is why it doesn't work at all in Linux. To Linux, you don't even have an existing touchpad device. It doesn't even see it, because there are no drivers communicating with the operating system itself. Linux doesn't have device discovery (and auto download of device drivers when needed) like Windows does.
Some food for thought, most vendors (well... mostly all except maybe nVidia, AMD, etc) don't design Linux drivers, so it's up to independent programmers to write drivers for Linux. This is why there are either:
A - No drivers.
B - Really bad/buggy/out of date drivers.
Regards,
Patrick
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I'm aware of the differences between Windows and Linux, thank you. :)
Let me try to clarify: whenever the touchpad works under windows, it works absolutely fine under linux with its generic driver for ps/2 devices. Once it stops working under windows, if I then restart and boot into linux -- it is dead. When it works, it works under both systems.
Let me try to clarify: whenever the touchpad works under windows, it works absolutely fine under linux with its generic driver for ps/2 devices. Once it stops working under windows, if I then restart and boot into linux -- it is dead. When it works, it works under both systems.
My apologies, I misunderstood.
You can kind of understand how it was right for me to assume you didn't understand why it was working in Windows (at times) and not in Linux at all (because that's what these both imply).
Anyway, it all comes down to crappy drivers plain & simple. If you're on the latest touchpad driver from the manufacturer and have tried an uninstall + reinstall of it (just to be sure it's not a buggy install), that's about all you can do aside from contacting them and seeing if they have any patch or something. I doubt they do. FWIW, touchpad drivers are notorious for causing problems, with Synaptics being the biggest one.
Bottom line, assuming I am correct in your BSOD issues being solved, then I think we're all wrapped up here. If you have any other questions, let me know.
Regards,
Patrick
Thing is, the touchpad is dead under linux, too...
So, the fact that it's dead under a different OS doesn't make a difference?
You can kind of understand how it was right for me to assume you didn't understand why it was working in Windows (at times) and not in Linux at all (because that's what these both imply).
Anyway, it all comes down to crappy drivers plain & simple. If you're on the latest touchpad driver from the manufacturer and have tried an uninstall + reinstall of it (just to be sure it's not a buggy install), that's about all you can do aside from contacting them and seeing if they have any patch or something. I doubt they do. FWIW, touchpad drivers are notorious for causing problems, with Synaptics being the biggest one.
Bottom line, assuming I am correct in your BSOD issues being solved, then I think we're all wrapped up here. If you have any other questions, let me know.
Regards,
Patrick
The pleasure was mine! Thanks for the consistent information.
Regarding an Ultrabook, oh man... so many options! In my opinion, what's most important is the manufacturer you choose. I'd go with: Samsung (being #1 - the rest not ranked in order), Dell, Asus, Acer. The following have pretty decent warranty/replacement policies (with Asus being questionable at times), and good drivers.
What's your budget?
Regards,
Patrick
Regarding an Ultrabook, oh man... so many options! In my opinion, what's most important is the manufacturer you choose. I'd go with: Samsung (being #1 - the rest not ranked in order), Dell, Asus, Acer. The following have pretty decent warranty/replacement policies (with Asus being questionable at times), and good drivers.
What's your budget?
Regards,
Patrick
I can't say there's a budget limitation, but given relatively infrequent use and what I'd use it for (Matlab, virtualbox with linux for some scientific computations, data analysis, use of Office, especially Powerpoint with embedded animations, the rest is usual, no gaming), I'd probably like to fall within 1K. But then again, there isn't really a limit. I do want SSD (no less than 256Gb) and no less than 8 Gb of RAM. 13" screen, can't stand anything larger in a laptop.
This ASUS was absolutely fine, my final test is to stop using sleep and go back to hibernation (as it did before I installed the SSD). This touchpad thing happens after it wakes up, so maybe it registers touches/clicks when sleeping (the top flexes quite a bit, so when I carry it around I could be flooding its event queue or something, who knows). Suggestions are highly appreciated!
This ASUS was absolutely fine, my final test is to stop using sleep and go back to hibernation (as it did before I installed the SSD). This touchpad thing happens after it wakes up, so maybe it registers touches/clicks when sleeping (the top flexes quite a bit, so when I carry it around I could be flooding its event queue or something, who knows). Suggestions are highly appreciated!
Here's a Dell - DELL XPS 12 (XPSU12-8668CRBFB) Intel Core i7 8GB DDR3 Memory 256GB SSD 12.5" Touchscreen Ultrabook Windows 8 - Newegg.com
- 8 GB DDR3.
- 256 GB SSD.
- i7 at 1.8GHz.
- 1080p, 1920x1080.
- USB 3.0.
- Decent integrated video.
Not bad price either considering it's right around your ballpark.
Looking at these makes me wish I had one! :grin1:
Regards,
Patrick
- 8 GB DDR3.
- 256 GB SSD.
- i7 at 1.8GHz.
- 1080p, 1920x1080.
- USB 3.0.
- Decent integrated video.
Not bad price either considering it's right around your ballpark.
Looking at these makes me wish I had one! :grin1:
Regards,
Patrick
I really don't like this design, thinking along the lines of Dell XPS 13 or Samsung Ativ 9...
By the way, here is an update about my laptop. I don't know how a malfunctioning driver can temporarily screw up a device to the point where it doesn't work under a different OS loaded from a USB drive, but here we are. Since I am buying a new one, I popped the old HDD in and everything works, no BSODs, no hangups, touchpad working fine. Anyhow, thanks a lot for your help.
By the way, here is an update about my laptop. I don't know how a malfunctioning driver can temporarily screw up a device to the point where it doesn't work under a different OS loaded from a USB drive, but here we are. Since I am buying a new one, I popped the old HDD in and everything works, no BSODs, no hangups, touchpad working fine. Anyhow, thanks a lot for your help.
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