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In my ls run picture I should have used ls -a to get all the hidden and system entries. My apologies. Click on the thumbnails for full screen views.
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You can see I use the Unix - and + option tokens. Here is the full possible range of options.
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Here is a portion of the detailed list for the my AppData\Local folder
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I’m going to wander into an area beyond my Windows internals knowledge: Could there be something left over from the failed install and uninstall in the C:\Windows\Installer folder causing these problems?
 
For the Seiko "software Updater, since it shows in add/remove programs, run Revo Uninstaller and let it comb through the registry for you.
I always use Revo or Geek Uninstaller in place of Windows add/remove program.
Download Revo Uninstaller - MajorGeeks

I was searching for some sort of Realtek cleanup tool and found this
Guru3D - Driver Sweeper

I never heard of it and have no idea how good or poor it might be. It also doesn't require an install so you could run it and see if it finds anything. If you are worried, just back out of it and don't clean anything.

Here is a command that removes Realtek High Definition Audio Driver
Realtek High Definition Audio Driver - Add or Remove Programs Entry Information
 
Thank you for the Revo Uninstaller tip; I'll try it.

As to removing the Realtek High Definition Audio Driver, I can't afford to do that because it really is the driver for my Realtek audio card. Long ago Perfect Updater found a subsequent newer version whose install worked perfectly, so the driver is up to date. The problem is that the older failed install attempt (driver installations are trickier than app software) has left detritus that always tries to run and fails at system startup. A minor annoyance at worst, but I'd like to find the trash and eliminate it.
 
plodr said:
For the Seiko "software Updater, since it shows in add/remove programs, run Revo Uninstaller and let it comb through the registry for you.
I always use Revo or Geek Uninstaller in place of Windows add/remove program.
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I just tried it and it wiped out all aspects of Software Updater in the Registry and deleted it from the Installed Program list. Time will tell if that killed the periodic update request to update Software Updater, but I'm betting that it will. The user interface and the process design (starts the progran's registered uninstall process and then cleans up anything left over afterwards) are excellent. Thank you for that excellent recommendation; I upgraded to the Pro version and paid them the money they deserve.
 
There has been sufficient proof by exhaustion that running the Revo Uninstaller has cured the periodic Software Updater pop-up window complaint in this thread. My thanks to plodr for that recommendation. I will use that app for all future uninstalls because it first runs the registered Uninstall for the target program and then cleans up the dirt that process leaves behind. Nice.

However, because the startup Realtek Audio pop-up is for a failed driver instead of a program install, it does not appear in the Control Panel->Programs and Features list and Revo Uninstaller can’t do anything about it. My guess is that problem is detritus in a similar sub-tree of the Registry that Revo Uninstaller cleaned out for the Software Updater problem.
 
malletKATman said:
(re: Java)
Do you need it for an app or a game?
You do not need it for the Internet.<

Yes, you do on many web sites. Firefox allows detailed control of where Java scripts may be run, and I only allow it in my list of trusted web sites. Does IE allow this level of control?
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Incorrect - (Oracle) Java is NOTHING to do with JavaScript - it's effectively a virtual machine, rather than a scripting language, and is almost never used in normal web browsing.
Java is pretty much owned by Oracle, since it bought the rights off Sun, although it's technically open-source.

How is JavaScript different from Java?
 
Thanks for that correction, NoelDP. I will run Revo Uninstaller on the Java program and see what happens.
 
I used Revo in 2014 to remove java from my XP computer, the only one that had Java.
My notes indicate that there were 2230 entries!
I still had the "coffee cup" (aka Java icon) showing in the control panel so I had to go searching on how to remove that.
It is JAVACPL.CPL and was in C:\Windows\system32. Once I erased that, no more icon in the Control Panel.
 
With Revo Uninstaller, be sure to change the settings so that it creates a Windows System Restore EACH TIME prior to program uninstallation.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2
 
malletKATman said:
There has been sufficient proof by exhaustion that running the Revo Uninstaller has cured the periodic Software Updater pop-up window complaint in this thread. My thanks to plodr for that recommendation. I will use that app for all future uninstalls because it first runs the registered Uninstall for the target program and then cleans up the dirt that process leaves behind. Nice.

However, because the startup Realtek Audio pop-up is for a failed driver instead of a program install, it does not appear in the Control Panel->Programs and Features list and Revo Uninstaller can’t do anything about it. My guess is that problem is detritus in a similar sub-tree of the Registry that Revo Uninstaller cleaned out for the Software Updater problem.
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Well, not long after I posted that, the Software Updater "update" screen popped up again. A proposition requiring proof by exhaustion is never really proved.

In light of the lack of progress on this thread’s issues and the concomitant lack of severity of the problems, I will probably close this thread soon. However, I did profit by learning about the Revo Uninstaller (in part a dreaded registry cleaner) and the difference between what I had done programming in Java and Java Beans and the new (to me) JavaScript language used as a browser Add-On.

I must mention that the idea promulgated in this thread website that allowing JavaScript usage in browsers is relatively harmless while running isolated Java applet programs to be interpreted by Oracle’s Java Runtime is relatively dangerous is not universally accepted. The justly famous Tor Project claims that enabling JavaScript enhances the risk of the host browser’s vulnerabilities, (see Tor Project: FAQ)
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"Why is NoScript configured to allow JavaScript by default in Tor Browser? Isn't that unsafe?
We configure NoScript to allow JavaScript by default in Tor Browser because many websites will not work with JavaScript disabled. Most users would give up on Tor entirely if a website they want to use requires JavaScript, because they would not know how to allow a website to use JavaScript (or that enabling JavaScript might make a website work).

There's a tradeoff here. On the one hand, we should leave JavaScript enabled by default so websites work the way users expect. On the other hand, we should disable JavaScript by default to better protect against browser vulnerabilities ( not just a theoretical concern!). But there's a third issue: websites can easily determine whether you have allowed JavaScript for them, and if you disable JavaScript by default but then allow a few websites to run scripts (the way most people use NoScript), then your choice of whitelisted websites acts as a sort of cookie that makes you recognizable (and distinguishable), thus harming your anonymity. [a risk I take]

Ultimately, we want the default Tor bundles to use a combination of firewalls (like the iptables rules in Tails) and sandboxes to make JavaScript not so scary. In the shorter term, TBB 3.0 will hopefully allow users to choose their JavaScript settings more easily — but the partitioning concern will remain.

Until we get there, feel free to leave JavaScript on or off depending on your security, anonymity, and usability priorities."
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Meanwhile, the only reason I can think of that an isolated (not an add-on or extension to a browser, etc.) Java applet increases the risk of BSOD failures any more than an isolated program I write in C or C++ is that Oracle’s Java Runtime is an order of magnitude more buggy than Microsoft’s C and C++ runtime DLLs, and uses unnecessary privilege. In my almost 10 years of running many C and C++ programs (mostly my own) and some Java applets on this Windows 7 box, under my Administrator ID, I have experienced only one BSOD and that was definitely not caused by a C/C++ program or an applet.
 
jcgriff2 said:
With Revo Uninstaller, be sure to change the settings so that it creates a Windows System Restore EACH TIME prior to program uninstallation.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2
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That was the default when I installed it, and how it has operated the two times I have used it to date.
 
jcgriff2 said:
Java = inevitable infection.
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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I encourage those following this thread to read this web page (The Rise and Fall of the Java Applet: Creative Coding’s Awkward Little Square) which gives a history of the Java applet versus JavaScript. Both were used as browser extensions, but original Java applets could be used as isolated programs, because a colleague of mine and I did exactly that with a portion of a complex business system, to try to get around the huge drag of porting C/C++ programs to various platforms. At the time Java-originator-and-still-owner Sun Microsystems provided a version of what the above web page calls the Java Virtual Machine (back then it certainly didn’t run as a true virtual machine) on a variety of platforms our product was trying to support, which meant that we would have an "already ported" product in Java applets on those same platforms.
malletKATman said:
That was the default when I installed it, and how it has operated the two times I have used it to date.
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I should have added that the default setting in Revo Uninstaller Pro 4.0.5 is to also make a specific registry backup, as well as a Restore Point, before first running the targets' registered uninstalls followed by registry and file searches to clean up leftover debris. IMO that's far safer than just running an uninstall out of Control Panel->Programs and Features where you don't know if a registry backup and a restore point will be created before removing anything. And if an app has put things proprietary things in the registry, responsible uninstall programing will try to remove them from the registry on the way out, but possibly without sufficient preliminary backup.
 
I think it is time to close this thread, but not as SOLVED. The problems I reported are not at all critical, they do not affect system performance or prevent the proper functioning of any system component; they are only a minor inconvenience.

I learned a lot following this thread. I want to thank plodr, NoelDP, Torchwood and particularly jcgriff2 for contributing toward solving the problems, even though ultimately they weren’t solved. plodr clued me in to the Revo Uninstaller which is a safer and better way to do uninstalls than the standard Control Panel->Product and Features product-registered uninstall standard method, and jcgriff2 showed me the utterly marvelous Altap Salamander: the penultimate manager for Drives, Folders and Files that puts Windows Explorer to shame.
 
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