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So if I'm reading this correctly, it's an in-game setting/networking/Steam/server/CS problem or configuration problem/bug?
Start with the game; what default settings for the mouse have you changed in-game? Can you test it with default settings? Is there a list of Command-line start modifications available for mouse options?
Start with the game; what default settings for the mouse have you changed in-game? Can you test it with default settings? Is there a list of Command-line start modifications available for mouse options?
Did Windows 7 x64 Ulimate OEM version activate and validate OK..?
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Regards. . .
jcgriff2
Please run MGADiag & post output - go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012
Regards. . .
jcgriff2
i havent installed anything but the updates. it runs on the default settings. it hasnt anything to do with the game settings or whatsoever. if you will check the link you will see the problem.my computer is a new one i bought nearly a month ago it has genuine win 7 on it. my previous computer was an xp and had the same issue. there are allready lots of topics opened about this but no solution found yet. i did also send a ticket to steam support but they havent anwered me yet. so as a last hope im writing my problem here. below you can check the links of topics opened about this issue if you check it out you will have a better vision of the problem. the in game settings of the game are alwasy set on the defaults. when changed it doesnt make a difference anyway. i cant say that the problem lies in steam or on the games because even in windows when pointing the mouse left to right i can feel a slight difference at pointing , in the past it was easier to aim but now it became harder. when i move the mouse just a little bit i can see theres a skipping in the pixels on the screen and this is probably making it harder for me to aim in the game and kill the person. there is a mysterious problem and it is driving people crazy. in the first link below they have written 184 pages about this problem and yet no solution. i dont have a hope that you will solve it but i do see it as a last chance.
Links--->
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781721
HLTV.org - Forum
cs 1.6 & cs:go bad recoil problem ! - Video Games - Video Games
cs:go cs 1.6 & css isn't smooth bad recoil & bad registration problem! :: Counter-Strike General Discussions
CS 1.6 VE CS GO mermi gitmeme problemi
CS 1.6 ve CS:GO mermi gitmemesi problemi(bad recoil) - SenOyna Online Oyun Komunitesi
Links--->
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781721
HLTV.org - Forum
cs 1.6 & cs:go bad recoil problem ! - Video Games - Video Games
cs:go cs 1.6 & css isn't smooth bad recoil & bad registration problem! :: Counter-Strike General Discussions
CS 1.6 VE CS GO mermi gitmeme problemi
CS 1.6 ve CS:GO mermi gitmemesi problemi(bad recoil) - SenOyna Online Oyun Komunitesi
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Have you been using the same router for all of this period?
The following we can do nothing directly about: in-game setting/Steam/server/CS problem or configuration problem/bug; in addition, it could easily be some CS:GO exploit that is in use by a fellow player on the same server that is causing this.
If the issue has been the same across several different Windows versions and differing hardware configurations over a 5 year period, it is highly unlikely to be anything other than the above.
Do not PM me again, for any reason.
Have you been using the same router for all of this period?
The following we can do nothing directly about: in-game setting/Steam/server/CS problem or configuration problem/bug; in addition, it could easily be some CS:GO exploit that is in use by a fellow player on the same server that is causing this.
If the issue has been the same across several different Windows versions and differing hardware configurations over a 5 year period, it is highly unlikely to be anything other than the above.
if you would read my messages on time i wouldnt have had to write you a pm. and what if i write a pm what is your use? and i don't know if you actually do read my messages. because i did say i played the game also on offline bots and had the same issue. i said many times the issue wasnt about being online or cs but you are persistently trying not to understand my problem. previous times i have formatted my pc with no internet connection etc. i had still the same problem
Hi xell,
Please use the default font for your posts, the font you're currently using is harder to read. In addition, we are all volunteers here and we can't provide instant support. Please don't PM staff members to bump posts - we respond quickly where possible, but it may take 24 hours before someone can respond to your post.
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Just to confirm - you've said you've experienced this problem over the last five years, both with and without an internet connection? You get the same problem playing CS when not connected to the internet? Can you also confirm that this has happened with several computers, with no common components? (Aka, completely different computers - no parts remained the same).
Please use the default font for your posts, the font you're currently using is harder to read. In addition, we are all volunteers here and we can't provide instant support. Please don't PM staff members to bump posts - we respond quickly where possible, but it may take 24 hours before someone can respond to your post.
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Just to confirm - you've said you've experienced this problem over the last five years, both with and without an internet connection? You get the same problem playing CS when not connected to the internet? Can you also confirm that this has happened with several computers, with no common components? (Aka, completely different computers - no parts remained the same).
with and without connection yes. iwas try win98 also nothing change.and i've formatted my pc, harddisk, i even tried to erase everything with killdisk, I installed the game on various harddisks and tried it in some gaming cafes, most commonly the ones with an MSi card didn't seem to have the problem.Mostly people gigabyte and asrock motherboard have this problem . but im still not sure about it.the same problem can be different motherboards.I'm not sure of anything about this issue.i have found another one called "set timer resolution". it reduces from 1ms to 0.5ms. but i cant say it really helped.i can't confirm your last questions cause i don't know what is them hardware's.but i didn't any problem with MSI cards yet.
Hi xell,
It's still hard to follow what's happening. Have you tried the game, and experienced the same problem, on completely different computers? You've mentioned the motherboard, have you only ever experienced this problem on one computer with the same motherboard.
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It's still hard to follow what's happening. Have you tried the game, and experienced the same problem, on completely different computers? You've mentioned the motherboard, have you only ever experienced this problem on one computer with the same motherboard.
Please follow the instructions in this post:
i have followed the steps you said. and the thing about different mothercards i have heaard from several people that they also had the same problem. i played on many computers however i cant say that i tried the game on totally different computers since i dont know their system hardware
if i should give an example of myself, my old computer was totally different from my new one. my old one had: intel 2 core asus motherboard sapphire graohic card and kingston ram it was runnin on win xp. my new computer has intel 5th generation processor. ati radeon powercolor graphic card corsair ram seagate hdd and gigabyte motherboaed win7. as u can see 2 totally different computers.when the problem first occured i installed a program called sXe injected. this caused problems on the graphic card especially the blue screen problems.then i realised my mouse lost sensitivity. at first i thought it was a virus and i formatted the HDD many times but it didnt change so i had to change my graphic card from 'ATI' to Nvidia but it didnt matter. and yes i did what the previous member said. it is proven genuine. besides my friend has a win 8 laptop with an i7 processor and he is also experiencing the same problem
to think of that you never play games it is hard to make you understand the problem. thats why i have sent you links above to show you the issue. when shot in the head, the guy should immediately die in the game but instead the bullets fly to his shoulders and elsewhere do you understand?
many people dont understand and dont want to believe this problems existance or because of their ignorance they just shoot the guy using 30 bullets. that is why it stays unsolved. if this problem can be solved i may die in peace
if i should give an example of myself, my old computer was totally different from my new one. my old one had: intel 2 core asus motherboard sapphire graohic card and kingston ram it was runnin on win xp. my new computer has intel 5th generation processor. ati radeon powercolor graphic card corsair ram seagate hdd and gigabyte motherboaed win7. as u can see 2 totally different computers.when the problem first occured i installed a program called sXe injected. this caused problems on the graphic card especially the blue screen problems.then i realised my mouse lost sensitivity. at first i thought it was a virus and i formatted the HDD many times but it didnt change so i had to change my graphic card from 'ATI' to Nvidia but it didnt matter. and yes i did what the previous member said. it is proven genuine. besides my friend has a win 8 laptop with an i7 processor and he is also experiencing the same problem
to think of that you never play games it is hard to make you understand the problem. thats why i have sent you links above to show you the issue. when shot in the head, the guy should immediately die in the game but instead the bullets fly to his shoulders and elsewhere do you understand?
many people dont understand and dont want to believe this problems existance or because of their ignorance they just shoot the guy using 30 bullets. that is why it stays unsolved. if this problem can be solved i may die in peace
Hi xell,
Yes, I understand the issue - I'll post more about that soon, but for the moment I'm trying to see the MGADiag report. The steps outlined in the previous post should have produced a report, could you post this up?
Thank you for answering the question - I was referring to playing the game on a different computer, rather than completely different models of hardware. The thread is getting quite long, so for the sake of having all the info, could you make a list of the games you've experienced this problem with?
Is this just happening in Counter Strike, or are CS:CZ + CS:GO also affected? Any other games?
Yes, I understand the issue - I'll post more about that soon, but for the moment I'm trying to see the MGADiag report. The steps outlined in the previous post should have produced a report, could you post this up?
Thank you for answering the question - I was referring to playing the game on a different computer, rather than completely different models of hardware. The thread is getting quite long, so for the sake of having all the info, could you make a list of the games you've experienced this problem with?
Is this just happening in Counter Strike, or are CS:CZ + CS:GO also affected? Any other games?
Hi Xell,
Unfortunately, that screenshot is not enough. We need you to run MGADiag and press the Copy button. Then paste it into your next post.
Kind regards,
Stephen
Unfortunately, that screenshot is not enough. We need you to run MGADiag and press the Copy button. Then paste it into your next post.
Kind regards,
Stephen
Hi xell,
I want to make sure you understand a couple of things here. Poor hit detection in CS is not related to the feel of Windows being sluggish. The only instances where this might be the case is if you have too many programs running at once, and other similar factors that might slow down Windows. As this issue has been going on for a long time, across multiple computers and installs, it's highly unlikely there is any lasting issue that is slowing down Windows.
You've pointed out that the shots your firing are not always 100% accurate. I'm sure you're aware of this, but the guns in FPS games are not designed to be 100% accurate. They are designed to fire within a certain range of accuracy - there is an element of randomness to where the bullet will go. The further away the target, the less accurate your weapon will be - your crosshair may well be on your opponents head, but that does not mean the bullet will always hit there.
Okay - that out the way. What you're experiencing is also the result of lag/latency from a variety of factors. When you're playing an online game, this is particularly the case with FPS games, whether or not you "hit" the target depends on how good the internet connection between the you and the other player is. You may have a great internet connection, and still experience poor hit detection due to the internet connection. Any lag can be due to your own internet connection, your opponents internet connection, and the connection status of all the servers in between you and the other player. This might simply be one server, with you and the other player both directly connecting to it, or the game may involve calls to more servers - most FPS games use multiple servers for multiplayer gaming. If either your connection is bad - even if just for a fraction of a second - or your opponents connection is bad, or one of the server connections itself is bad, then you will experience latency and poor hit detection.
Whenever there is latency in multiplayer gaming, hit detection is one of the first things to suffer.
Additionally - counter strike was released by Valve in 2000; it's an old game. Unfortunately, lots of old games are not optimized to run on the latest operating systems and hardware - hardware has moved on quite a bit since 2000, and there are thousands of possible combinations of hardware. This can have an effect on game performance - your FPS might be great, but other areas of gameplay could be suffering due to newer hardware. Valve puts in a lot of work updating games, but there are too many combinations of hardware to extensively test all their games on every possible combination - this is especially the case with older games where there is less priority to update them.
All of the points above will be contributing to your issue. However, I'd also like to make it clear that this issue is limited to the game and network connections with online play. There does not appear to be any issue with your PC.
If you have tried the game on several different computers, all with the same issue, the unfortunately the game itself is the issue. Either the game not being optimized for modern hardware, lag from online play, or just the game itself not being perfect. Other than that, the issue is out of our hands - if you've got the same problem across several installations and computers, there isn't much we can do. We can rule out any issue with the computers themselves - other factors have to be considered.
Windows may feel sluggish for a variety of reasons - I suggest you monitor your RAM usage, and remove any unwanted programs from start-up. You're PC has good spec, but if you're keen to speed up Windows, you may want to consider adding a faster hard drive (7,200rpm or an SSD), or using a faster RAM type if your motherboard supports that.
I want to make sure you understand a couple of things here. Poor hit detection in CS is not related to the feel of Windows being sluggish. The only instances where this might be the case is if you have too many programs running at once, and other similar factors that might slow down Windows. As this issue has been going on for a long time, across multiple computers and installs, it's highly unlikely there is any lasting issue that is slowing down Windows.
You've pointed out that the shots your firing are not always 100% accurate. I'm sure you're aware of this, but the guns in FPS games are not designed to be 100% accurate. They are designed to fire within a certain range of accuracy - there is an element of randomness to where the bullet will go. The further away the target, the less accurate your weapon will be - your crosshair may well be on your opponents head, but that does not mean the bullet will always hit there.
Okay - that out the way. What you're experiencing is also the result of lag/latency from a variety of factors. When you're playing an online game, this is particularly the case with FPS games, whether or not you "hit" the target depends on how good the internet connection between the you and the other player is. You may have a great internet connection, and still experience poor hit detection due to the internet connection. Any lag can be due to your own internet connection, your opponents internet connection, and the connection status of all the servers in between you and the other player. This might simply be one server, with you and the other player both directly connecting to it, or the game may involve calls to more servers - most FPS games use multiple servers for multiplayer gaming. If either your connection is bad - even if just for a fraction of a second - or your opponents connection is bad, or one of the server connections itself is bad, then you will experience latency and poor hit detection.
Whenever there is latency in multiplayer gaming, hit detection is one of the first things to suffer.
Additionally - counter strike was released by Valve in 2000; it's an old game. Unfortunately, lots of old games are not optimized to run on the latest operating systems and hardware - hardware has moved on quite a bit since 2000, and there are thousands of possible combinations of hardware. This can have an effect on game performance - your FPS might be great, but other areas of gameplay could be suffering due to newer hardware. Valve puts in a lot of work updating games, but there are too many combinations of hardware to extensively test all their games on every possible combination - this is especially the case with older games where there is less priority to update them.
All of the points above will be contributing to your issue. However, I'd also like to make it clear that this issue is limited to the game and network connections with online play. There does not appear to be any issue with your PC.
If you have tried the game on several different computers, all with the same issue, the unfortunately the game itself is the issue. Either the game not being optimized for modern hardware, lag from online play, or just the game itself not being perfect. Other than that, the issue is out of our hands - if you've got the same problem across several installations and computers, there isn't much we can do. We can rule out any issue with the computers themselves - other factors have to be considered.
Windows may feel sluggish for a variety of reasons - I suggest you monitor your RAM usage, and remove any unwanted programs from start-up. You're PC has good spec, but if you're keen to speed up Windows, you may want to consider adding a faster hard drive (7,200rpm or an SSD), or using a faster RAM type if your motherboard supports that.
Hi xell,
Unfortunately the copy of Windows you are using is pirated, not a genuine copy.
As mentioned in my previous post, we are very limited in the support we can provide you with this issue anyway. All of the factors that contribute to Game lag in this case are outside our control. However, the best suggestion I can give you towards improving your games performance is to install a legal copy of Windows. Pirated versions can suffer from performance issues; the methods used to bypass activation can cause further issues themselves.
Other than that, there isn't much that we can do - the factors contributing to this issue are outside of our control.
Unfortunately the copy of Windows you are using is pirated, not a genuine copy.
As mentioned in my previous post, we are very limited in the support we can provide you with this issue anyway. All of the factors that contribute to Game lag in this case are outside our control. However, the best suggestion I can give you towards improving your games performance is to install a legal copy of Windows. Pirated versions can suffer from performance issues; the methods used to bypass activation can cause further issues themselves.
Other than that, there isn't much that we can do - the factors contributing to this issue are outside of our control.
you are really don't understand this issue mate. please check this forum and look up 50-60 page and we can discuss easily cause I feel like I'm talking to the wall.im pretty sure how to bullets should go.it is not about lag,ping or steam update. i was usually playing the game nonsteam,but even when playing it with steam the same problem would occur.i think i need to talk another language cause you guys didn't get it this issue.Take a look at the 5th minute -> CS isn't smooth - Page 184 - Steam Users' Forums
its already weird to be playing 2000dpi mouse at 9.6sensivity
before the mouse would fly above any sens. of 2
its already weird to be playing 2000dpi mouse at 9.6sensivity
before the mouse would fly above any sens. of 2
Hi xell,
Let me explain something to you. If there is a hardware problem - you won't experience the same issue on another computer using different components. You also won't experience the same issue over five years using a variety of different hardware. If there is a software issue, then you won't experience the same issue on another computer, or after a reinstall.
I have tried to carefully explain the factors that contribute to this issue. I can't explain this any simpler, if you're unwilling to listen there isn't much we can help you with.
Here are a couple of issues to consider.
No Valve games run without steam. If you were playing it without having steam installed, you were using a pirated copy. If this was the case, then pirated copies do not have the latest updates - they are not generally stable versions, and there are multiple other issues associated with using pirated copies.
On top of this, the same hardware issues already described will still apply. Old games are not designed for modern hardware - they have problems.
Secondly - you are using a pirated copy of Windows. This in itself causes performance issues - that may or may not be contributing, there are lots of pirated copies and they all have different problems.
If you're running multiplayer - you will always get bullet detection problems. Maybe in 20 years time networking will have improved enough to completely eliminate network latency, but for the time being those sorts of problems will always exist.
This post describes factors that contribute to poor hit detection - both multiplayer and single player:
https://www.sysnative.com/forums/wi...61-usb-latency-stuff-problem-2.html#post52208
Let me explain something to you. If there is a hardware problem - you won't experience the same issue on another computer using different components. You also won't experience the same issue over five years using a variety of different hardware. If there is a software issue, then you won't experience the same issue on another computer, or after a reinstall.
I have tried to carefully explain the factors that contribute to this issue. I can't explain this any simpler, if you're unwilling to listen there isn't much we can help you with.
Here are a couple of issues to consider.
No Valve games run without steam. If you were playing it without having steam installed, you were using a pirated copy. If this was the case, then pirated copies do not have the latest updates - they are not generally stable versions, and there are multiple other issues associated with using pirated copies.
On top of this, the same hardware issues already described will still apply. Old games are not designed for modern hardware - they have problems.
Secondly - you are using a pirated copy of Windows. This in itself causes performance issues - that may or may not be contributing, there are lots of pirated copies and they all have different problems.
If you're running multiplayer - you will always get bullet detection problems. Maybe in 20 years time networking will have improved enough to completely eliminate network latency, but for the time being those sorts of problems will always exist.
This post describes factors that contribute to poor hit detection - both multiplayer and single player:
https://www.sysnative.com/forums/wi...61-usb-latency-stuff-problem-2.html#post52208
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