New Windows 7 install won't update

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StymiedMike

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I did a fresh Windows 7 install on a new SSD, added necessary drivers, & installed SP1 from a disc. Twice I've let Windows updates run overnight but nothing happens, it just keeps checking for updates. I have not installed any other software because I wanted to keep this a pure, clean install until I make an image.

I thought about installing the Convenience Rollup Package but read there were several known issues & that it did not install everything. So I did not do it.

There should not be anything corrupted because this is a fresh install from a disc which I have used before. Is there any diagnostic program that I run from an EHD in order to keep this new install "clean"?

Thank you.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not trying to be negative, but installing the svchost.exe lookup tool means I'm putting something extra on the new SSD which I was trying to avoid. And the Convenience Roll Up Pkg has several known issues. For issue #1 the directions provide a script that I have to run. And at the end of the MS article they list a bunch of fixes & that you may need some of them. The whole process looks like an accident waiting to happen. I'm willing to wait while updates are updating. I wish the process would just start.
 
Willy2 -
I was looking in Bleeping Computer & saw a Willy22. Is that you?
Windows 7 Fresh Install Won't Update? Help - Windows 7

I saw there was more recent Servicing Stack Upload dated September 2016 (KB3177467) & downloaded it. I clicked to install it & got a window saying "Searching for updates". I looked at Update History & it does not state that this update got installed. It appears that I can't install it even though it's already downloaded.

Edit - update
I rebooted the PC & tried the KB3177467 update again & this time it installed. Rebooted again & went to Updates again & it's checking. We'll see what happens after some time passes.
 
- The "Svchost" tool is "portable". So, it will leave only a few traces on your system. BTW, EVERY program you run will leave a few traces.
- If you want to get of obsolete files then after you've update your system enough, delete the "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\download" folder.
 
Willy2 said:
- The "Svchost" tool is "portable". So, it will leave only a few traces on your system. BTW, EVERY program you run will leave a few traces.
- If you want to get of obsolete files then after you've update your system enough, delete the "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\download" folder.
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That's why I don't want to run any program until I make an image.
 
- Even those "few traces" can be removed. Delete the "C:\Windows\prefetch" folder and "Recently opened" with e.g. Ccleaner.
- If your aim is to keep the size of the image as small as possible then you should install the "Convenience Roll Up" first instead of installing lots of individual updates. Those "know issues" become more problematic as the user installs more individual updates that are included in that "Convenience" Package.
- I installed the "Convenience" right after I re-installed Win 7 SP1 and never had any problems. See the guide I wrote.
 
Windows has run updating overnight & it's still checking for updates.

The guide at the end of step 2 states that step 3 (the Convenience Rollup) is optional & that you can skip to step 4 which is what I did.

Whether the updates get installed by either process is OK, but something has to get the updating process going.
 
The sequence that worked for me (short version):
- Install Win 7 SP1
- Install the latest WU agent. One can't get around that. Then the high CPU emerged.
- Install KB 3102810 to get rid of the high CPU.
- Install the "Convenience Update".
- ................

(I'll have to see whether I must re-write/improve the guide.)
 
I'm not sure what is considered high CPU usage. Mine is 25% which it typically is when checking for updates.

Previously I searched for information regarding KB3102810 but did not reach any meaningful (to me) answers. Some of the answers said it was an old Windows Update Agent/Client. I figured since I was using the latest KB31774567 then I was OK.

What is KB3102810 & what does it do?

Edit -
Previously with my old HDD I installed KB31774567 & Windows updated overnight. That was without using KB3102810.
 
I had put updating the SSD on hold for the last month & a half & pulled the drive from the PC. But now trying again so I put the SSD back in and rolled back to before KB3177467 was installed because I wasn't sure of exactly everything that had been tried.

I put the latest Windows Update Client #KB3177467 on the SSD, double clicked to install it. It's been "Searching for updates on this computer" all night. How long does it take to search my computer? I have only 3 updates on it. One is SP1 (KB976932) which I installed from a disc. One (KB976902) got installed when I connected to Microsoft in order for it to verify that the Windows 7 copy was valid. The other one is KB971033 and am not sure what it is but it indicates it was installed a month ago.

Now I can't even install the Windows Update Client.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.




 
I stopped all the "searching" & ran the WindowsUpdateDiagnostic & got an error message. Did a cold reboot, reran the Diagnostic & everything was OK. Then double clicked on the KB3177467 & it now asked if I wanted to install it & so I did. I started the Check for Updates process again & let it run for a couple hours but to no avail.

I'm still confused about KB3102810 because most things I read said KB3177467 replaced it as the most recent Windows Update Agent / Client. Yet it seems most people download & install KB3102810. So I did that too. A few minutes later I had 158 important updates to download and 109 optional ones.
 
- Right. KB 3102810 did the trick in this one particular situation and that's all that counts.
- I modified my guide accordingly.
- Yes, I am "Willy22".
 
I'm glad KB 3102810 worked but I'm still curious. Is KB 3177467 supposed to be it's replacement?
 
Looks like I'm back to square one. I was downloading & installing the updates in groups of 20-25 because several times I read it was recommended not to install all at once because it may cause problems. The first 100 went OK but the next batch of 20 eventually did not download & I got an error message stating such. So I tried the next 10 & it kept downloading for a couple hours but going nowhere.

I stopped, rebooted, & ran the WindowsUpdateDiagnostic tool and got 3 errors:
1) Service Registration is missing or corrupt
2) Windows Update Error 0x80070057
3) Problem installing recent updates

I ran it a few more times, rebooting between tries. Usually the first error was fixed but not the other two. Eventually I got it to where the 80070057 was not fixed. I remembered I had the same error on the old spinner HDD & was told to run the updating overnight & it worked.

I wonder if whatever caused the group of 20 updates to stop created a problem.

All this testing and/or rebooted wiped out the updates that were in the queue line to be updated. Looks like another overnight update.
 
After downloading & installing a few groups of 20 updates the system took a long time ("forever") to get the next group. Like something was causing a hangup. Of course it could just be the typical Windows taking forever syndrome. Anyway I restored back to the same time as mentioned in message #11. Then installed KB3102810, ran the updates & got 155 important & 111 optional updates. Then downloaded & installed updates in larger groups of 35-40 & so far it's working.
 
- What's the % of free disk space ? I have only ~ 10 % free disk space on a ~ 450 GB drive. I noticed that when one has this little free diskspace Windows seems to "throw up" more errors. A solution for that is to move all non-system files (Piriform's Defraggler) towards the end of the drive.
- Run GSmartControl and see how much pink/red-ish lines (except for "Temperature") show up in the "Attributes" tab. One or more pink lines means that your HDD is (in the 1st stages of) failing.
 
This is a brand new 480GB SSD with only Windows 7 installed, & some updates.

Everything seemed to be going fine & last night I went to download just a single update & figured it would be quick. It was KB2900986, Cumulative Security Update for ActiveX Killbits. Well it wasn't quick & the download ran all night. This morning a message said "Cancelled".

So I went to download IE11 and it's been downloading for over 12 hours. Guess I'll find out what happens in the morning.
 
The IE11 download update got cancelled.
Any suggestions on what to do in order to get Updates working again?
 
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