How do you maintain your Computer??

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Aura said:
Running CHKDSK /R is one of the first troubleshooting step you take when you are working on a system that throws file system errors. That is to eliminate the file corruption possibility (or if you confirm it, take proper actions). In a certain way, there's no point in running /f alone. Imagine you run CHKDSK /F, it finds bad sectors with file systems on it, but just mark them as bad and leave the data where it is. You had the possibility to solve system file corruption, but you didn't. Also, if you think that running a CHKDSK /R scan is long, simply do it overtime or during a period where you're not at your computer. This is what I do and recommend to the users when I make them run it and there hasn't been any problem in doing so.
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I think modern Windows does a pretty good job of marking sectors as 'bad' on its own. if you are correct, wouldn't the more efficient option be to run CHKDSK /F as a rule, and only use the /R switch when necessary? While in school as well as several times since, I've questioned these switches, and I always seem to get the same answer, that the /r switch deals with the physical disk itself...trying to correct formatting issues in the sector allowing it to be used by the OS. If I am wrong about this, please direct me to a link so I can get this information straight once and for all. Thanks.

EDIT: I am aware that it also tries to recover readable information, but I find it to be a very rare occasion when the average user needs to run this for maintenance!
 
I have used CCleaner and all it does is remove orphaned entries which makes ZIP difference to Windows performance.
 
No you are correct, starting in Windows 8, it now checks automatically for bad sectors and mark them/fix them as it goes. If a full scan (CHKDSK /R) is required, a notification will appear in the Action Center. However this is only since Windows 8, and not Windows 7. And since Windows 7 can still be considered "pretty modern", I wasn't sure of what you meant exactly. So Windows 8 and 8.1 have that feature, and I imagine Windows 10 will have it as well, but not Windows 7 which is still widely used.
 
The option is there to disable startup programs if one wishes to.
I don't need links to know how msconfig works.:smile9:
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That only disables startup programs while trouble shooting. When you go back to normal start. They will start the next time you restart.
Please see post # 57!!
 
When you go back to normal start. They will start the next time you restart.
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This is false. If you disable a program from startup via msconfig, it'll stay disabled until you re-enable it. It won't "start" the next time you reboot your computer. Try it on your own system, you'll see. Also, if it was really this way, it would be totally useless. What would be the point of disabling a startup program, only for it to launch anyway on restart.
 
Funny I just rebooted and all entries are still disabled. Your advice is false, Donetao.

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It will start the next time you start your PC in normal mode. It's only disabled as long as your in the Diagnostic or Selective start up.
I have tired it on my system.











I disable startups with Autorun or CCleaner. That way I know they are disabled. I have seen them enabled after I have went to normal startup after using a selective start up. How-To-Geek explains it very well and recommends Autorun and CCleaner.
 
It will start the next time you start your PC in normal mode. It's only disabled as long as your in the Diagnostic or Selective start up.
I have tired it on my system.
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You are mixing things up here donetao. Disabling startup programs under the "Startup" tab and msconfig, and configuring a "Selective startup" under the "General" tab are not the same things as well. So yes, if you disable startup programs under the "Startup" tab, they will stay disabled until you enable tham back.

Edit: Also Autoruns isn't something that should be used by beginner or everyday users, but more by advanced users that knows exactly what each entry means and do.
 
I leave msconfig in "Selective Startup" without issues.

I seriously doubt you use Autoruns, Donetao.
 
Aura said:
No you are correct, starting in Windows 8, it now checks automatically for bad sectors and mark them/fix them as it goes. If a full scan (CHKDSK /R) is required, a notification will appear in the Action Center. However this is only since Windows 8, and not Windows 7. And since Windows 7 can still be considered "pretty modern", I wasn't sure of what you meant exactly. So Windows 8 and 8.1 have that feature, and I imagine Windows 10 will have it as well, but not Windows 7 which is still widely used.
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Now you went and got me all curious again!! :banghead: I did some Googling because I was sure that NTFS in Vista did this as well. I found that it does incorporate a "self healing" feature, but I don't know if has the same functionality if enabled.

["NTFS in Vista has a self healing feature that may affect file recovery. Basically upon detection of certain types of corruption, NTFS will repair the corruption in place. The goal is to restore consistency of the metadata much like chkdsk will except it does not require a lock of the entire volume. If user does not want it enable by default, it can be disabled on a per volume basis using fsutil.exe." from: Blogs - The Storage Team at Microsoft - File Cabinet Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs].
 
If this can help you MR919.

Because of the exclusive access requirement and the time-consuming nature of CHKDSK operation, Windows 8 implemented a new file system health model in which the operating system fixes errors on the volumes as it encounters them. In the event that the problem is grave and a full scan is required, Action Center notifies the user to take the volume offline at the first convenience.

Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 added self-healing ability, turned on by default, in addition to providing the CHKDSK command. It detects physical file system errors and silently fixes them on the fly. Thus, many problems previously discovered on running CHKDSK never appear. It is administrated by fsutil repair command.
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHKDSK

Edit: On a side note, usually when corruption is detected on the drive, the event is logged in the Event Viewer as well and it recommends you to run a CHKDSK /R.
 
OK Let's all pick on donetao!! I'm not real sure about msconfig. I use CCleaner to disable startups and I'm really tired of all of this!!
Yes Dougie I have had Autorun for as long as I can remember and I have used it several times.
If you are in selective mode then the startups will stay disabled. If you check normal and restart, they will all be added again. I just did that. OK
I then used CCleaner to disable them instead of using msconfig. I like my PC to start in normal mode. I may be confusing these two things. OK!!
You are mixing things up here donetao. Disabling startup programs under the "Startup" tab and msconfig, and configuring a "Selective startup" under the "General" tab are not the same things as well.
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It is MHO that msconfig is not meant to disable startups. Only if your trouble shooting.
 
We aren't picking on you donetao, we're just telling you that you confused two concepts together and corrected you on it so you can learn. Isn't what you want from Sysnative? I've seen you post many times around here that you want to learn from the users here. So learn from what we say and in the future you'll know it. That's what you want no?
 
Aura said:
It will start the next time you start your PC in normal mode. It's only disabled as long as your in the Diagnostic or Selective start up.
I have tired it on my system.
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You are mixing things up here donetao. Disabling startup programs under the "Startup" tab and msconfig, and configuring a "Selective startup" under the "General" tab are not the same things as well. So yes, if you disable startup programs under the "Startup" tab, they will stay disabled until you enable tham back.
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I think what Donetao is saying is that if you are in msconfig and you go to the startup tab to make changes, when you return to the general tab you will see that it has switched from "Normal Startup" to "Selective Startup". If at some later time you go back to msconfig>general tab and click "Normal Startup" any items you had disabled manually will now start at next boot.

EDIT: Personally, I've been running in selective startup mode forever!:smile9:
 
Aura said:
We aren't picking on you donetao, we're just telling you that you confused two concepts together and corrected you on it so you can learn. Isn't what you want from Sysnative? I've seen you post many times around here that you want to learn from the users here. So learn from what we say and in the future you'll know it. That's what you want no?
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I have corrected my reply! Please read it Aura!! I want my PC to start in normal mode. I use CCleaner to disable startups. I seldom use msconfig to troubleshoot. I guess if you want to start and stay in selective mode like Dougie, they will stay disabled. Starting in normal will enable all the startups you disabled. As I stated I have been there before and just verified it again!
I just done that and that's what happened. I then disabled them with CCleaner!! Can we move on now please!!
 
I think what Donetao is saying is that if you are in msconfig and you go to the startup tab to make changes, when you return to the general tab you will see that it has switched from "Normal Startup" to "Selective Startup". If at some later time you go back to msconfig>general tab and click "Normal Startup" any items you had disabled manually will now start at next boot
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Thank you Thank you sir! You don't know how much I appreciate you!
 
There's a lot of love in this room! :hysterical: I think we should hire a referee!
 
MR919 said:
There's a lot of love in this room! :hysterical: I think we should hire a referee!
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I'm use to this! I have followers where ever I go. I try to keep my cool. Very hard for me to do some times.
I can handle it. I have seen these two many times. They mean well!!:hysterical:
Thanks for helping me with msconfig. You explained it well!! Hope we can get back to more tips about maintenance.
The thread seems to have drawn a lot of interest! I'm sure there are more good tips out there just waiting to be posted.
 
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