Hurricane Sandy

Never have seen such natural destruction in real life...

I was in Fort Lauderdale airport < 48 hours before Katrina hit and only got out due to a break in the storm...

Powers of nature are very powerful and many fail to take that into account...

Here in OR I don't have much to worry about except a volcanic eruption that will devastate most of the west coast...

@Kosh, I believe the biggest risk to the human race is the human race... FWIW, the biggest risk to the planet is the human race also... We all just suck :banghead:
On a side note, I was amazed to see this boat magnet: REU-STORM-SANDYHURRICAN-10-753x540.jpg
 
Did you hear the part about the Georgia Power crews that were sent up but not allowed to make repairs since they are non-union, they went back home..................
 
Non-union utility crews from out of state can work in N.J., power companies say | NJ.com:
Major utility companies in New Jersey said that they are welcoming any and all out-of-state crews helping to restore power, and have not refused any non-union contractors.

At least one media report out of Alabama claims that personnel from that state were turned away in Seaside Heights because they were not affiliated with a union.

“We take crews as they become available,” said Ron Morano, a spokesman for Jersey Central Power & Light. “Everyone understands this is an all-hands-on-deck event.”

He said crews from throughout the nation were now working in JCP&L’s service area, including from California, Idaho, Kentucky, Florida, Michigan and North Carolina.

He did suggest that municipal companies might have issues working side-by-side with non-unionized contractors.

“We did not turn any crews away,” he said.
 
That is sick.

This is where we need someone like President Reagan who is not afraid to take the unions on.

Any one person or group standing in the way of aid to the North East should be brought up on Federal criminal charges & prosecuted.

This is nothing short of RICO.
 
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John, re-read what I posted ^^^. Non-union workers are welcome.

Reports just in say that towns like Seaside Heights, NJ, will not have power or water restored for 8 (yes - eight) months minimum.

No surprise considering the damage to Seaside Heights. We're not used to storm damage of this nature in the NE.

Hurricane Sandy photos: 90% of Seaside Heights properties damaged or destroyed - National Jersey Shore | Examiner.com:

The extensive Hurricane Sandy damage in Seaside Heights is being compared to one of the worst natural disasters in our country's history - Hurricane Katrina. On Friday, borough officials revealed exactly why - confirming the worst case scenario for the owners of the 377 businesses and 14,210 homes on the island. "80-90% of all properties in Seaside Heights have sustained some type of damage, we suggest you contact FEMA right away," a statement on town's official website reads. "My heart goes out to these people who think they lost their house," Seaside Heights Police Chief Tom Boyd tells the Star Ledger. "When people call we try to look at the house, but there's gotta be 90% damage to every house in Seaside Heights."

Crews from local volunteer fire departments were in Long Island Tuesday-Thursday. After they received the OK to go and only had 2 hours to prepare. Due to coverage, they could only stay 3 days. They spent the entire time either pumping out first floors/basements of homes or relieving the exhausted crews from the local fire departments. They said people were just so very happy to see them and extremely appreciative. Although they refused to accept "payment", each time they went back to their trucks, they found baked goods and other food, beer, and even envelopes with money. Every time they left a house, people were collected outside offering them slices of pizza.
 
The crew I ran into came out of Elizabeth, they were in Maryland, finished up and went to Jersey. Apparently some areas are ok others not.
 
John, re-read what I posted ^^^. Non-union workers are welcome.
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Apologies - my reply was to Wrench's post.

As Wrench said in his last post, some are, some aren't welcome.

A close friend who is a Captain of a NJ Shore Fire Department says non-union crews are meeting with stiff resistance and outright harassment.

Time for NJ Governor Christie to put his Federal Prosecutor's hat back on & go after those that are harassing.
 
Laxar, Aside from hurricane.

Our home has been threatened by tornadoes about 4 times in the 11 years I've lived here. Each year getting progressively worse.

Let's face facts. Storms are getting stronger, more unpredictable, and lastly more deadly even with advancements in technology.

What scares me even more is in 2010, a tornadic storm was fixing to open a predicted F2 tornado about 500 feet from my house. It blew over, then about 50 miles later it spiked in strength and touched down as an F4 and stayed on the ground over a mile.

That was 2010. We have Hurricane Sandy in 2012.

I hate to say it, but we are in for a serious super storm that will destroy entire continents. There is no more act later. This is an act now situation before more lives are lost. From a stronger more deadly storm.
 
It goes beyond that, unfortunately. See http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/index.html. And that's just normal people acting normally without understanding the consequences that are right in front of them or recognizing the early (or not so early - aside from many signs shown in the above article, look at just one hardly considered one regarding coral reefs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_impact_on_coral_reefs) signs that are already there, especially when looked at in combination, and realizing that stopping or reversing some of these things are already beyond our science even if we somehow stopped causing further harm tomorrow or even worked together to try to fix things. To use a computer analogy, we've developed a "just add more RAM" approach to everything, but seem to have forgotten that doesn't always do the trick and eventually, even if that does work for a time, we always hit a maximum or reach a point where something else becomes the bottleneck (and with the Earth, the bottleneck may be something we don't know how to do anything about - and I fear we've already crossed some critical points of no return).

And that doesn't even include the madness from the use of WMD (biological, chemical, nuclear) not by Russia vs. the USA like in the 50's and 60's ("On the Beach" or "WW-III" or "Alas, Babylon"), but now from more and more countries and even small groups where all it takes is dedicated people with minimal funding to cause a genocidal catastrophe. While world-wide global thermonuclear war is probably less likely than it was, the risk of isolated incidents as more countries inevitably gain the ability grows every year. And it's already possible for someone (way too many people) with "common" knowledge of microbiology and genetic engineering and either access to something nasty to start with or just a little bit of luck - if that's the right word - to create an "I Am Legend" or "Dawn of the Dead" or "The Stand" or a similar scenario (or at least something like the Flu of 1918 - or 10X worse given how much more travel now occurs to spread it wider and faster than was possible then and intentionally making it worse). And that's assuming things like that don't already exist in Fort Detrick or elsewhere (and I'd bet they do) where we pray they never have "an accident."

While I admit I love watching such movies and reading such books, facing it in the real world is an entirely different thing. The world is approaching these sci-fi/horror scenarios (or the risk of them) far too fast. But I'll be damned if I have a clue what can really be done about almost any of it short of a truly fictional solution that may make things better or be equally bad in a different way.

Oh well, enough doom-and-gloom for one post.

Kosh
 
All I have to say is wow Kosh. You've pretty much summed up my thoughts into one post.

Like you said, it's too late to reverse or stop. All we can do is buy time. That's it.

Using the computer analogy, most common mainboards max at 32GB. We'll call that our global cap. We'll say each continent is allotted 4GB (actual is 4.5GB but seriously what would you do with half a GB). We'll say that each person uses 128MB. That means only 32 people could "live" from each continent. Ouch... None the less we could go around and around about one's environmental impact because just like a computer, no single person uses the same about of resources.

Anyways, like your Kosh. We need to look at the upside of things and either become "wall-e" my all-time, hands down favorite movie or every single soul on the face of the planet young and old alike needs to fight this head on.
 
Can it get much worse? Looks like it. :(

Small earthquake rattles some northern New Jersey towns still dealing with effects of Sandy - The Washington Post
RINGWOOD, N.J. — Some residents in northern New Jersey awoke to a small earthquake early Monday.

The temblor, with a magnitude of 2.0, struck at 1:19 a.m. and was centered in Ringwood, a community that’s still dealing with downed trees and power outages from Sandy.

and

Nor'easter threatens weather-weary NJ, NY - News - Boston.com

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — Forecasters are tracking another coastal storm that threatens cleanup and recovery efforts in New York and New Jersey after the devastation of Superstorm Sandy.

The National Weather Service says the nor'easter could hit the region on Wednesday into Thursday.

The storm could produce strong winds, heavy rain and cause moderate tidal flooding along the coast, Raritan Bay and lower Delaware Bay.

Buildings and trees weakened by Sandy would be vulnerable to additional damage.

The storm would also hamper efforts to restore electricity that was lost during Sandy. Meanwhile, temperatures have dropped in the region.
 
It's getting hard not to think of this as an attack against the USA using a new weather-control weapon - but I since we can't seem to even predict the weather it's hard to believe anyone, anywhere (on Earth) has that level of technology.

FEMA abandoning their posts in this crisis is one of the most shameful things I've ever seen. My avatar is beside himself.
 

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