[SOLVED] Unrepeatable BSOD, fixed few problems I think, more inside - Windows 8.1 x64

No, that's a good call by you. You maybe experiencing chip creep, etc, and it's always a good idea like I said to run at least one slot at a time before sending the board off again to be sure.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Yes, just ensure that at least every stick is causing a crash on its own in each slot. We have to do it that way if we want to be sure it's the motherboard. No cutting corners.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Pretty rough testing. I'll do it. I just learned I could take the ram out by taking off one fan on the cooler. I cleared the slots and ram of any dust and put them back. Once I receive an error I'll take them all out albeit one, then proceed to go through all sticks and slots.

You mentioned chip creep? What's that?
 
Good idea.

Chip creep is when your RAM loses contact with the slots from constantly contracting>expanding from heating up and cooling down. Dust also causes it.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Alright so no luck with RAM rearrangement. Gonna run one stick at a time starting tomorrow and go forth with that. If I get errors still with every memory stick in every slot combination what's the conclusion? That all the RAM is faulty, or motherboard, or both? I assume if I get errors with all sticks in specific slots then it'd be motherboard. Anyway, just a heads up.

It was pretty funny this time crashing cause I had just said to my girlfriend "Calling it, getting a crash in next hour", and lo and behold there it came.
 
Also should I be worried about these crashes harming any parts? I'm not sure if that's how it works or not, but I'm curious.
 
Well BSODs are designed to shut down the computer before any damage is done, so they're actually good as it does two things:
1. Prevents damage to your computer (mainly overheating problems)
2. Alerts you of problems that could get worse if they continue

As for the RAM combination, it's probably a failing motherboard that's having a bad time using certain DIMM slots.
 
If you get a crash with all sticks in all slots, it can be either both bad RAM, bad motherboard, or just a timings issue. If this is the case, I'd try running the DRAM timings within the BIOS at Auto, and if you crash after that, switch to setting them what they are recommended for. If you crash after both, just replace both RAM/board at this point so we're sure if warranty permits.

If you however only crash with all sticks in certain slots, it's a bad board.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Sorry I didn't read your post Patrick till now! I've changed the DRAM timings from 11-11-11-28 when set to auto, to 9-9-9-24 which is its recommended settings and I've had crashes with both settings both recently (last 2 weeks) and way back in September when I switched them to see what happens. I'm currently in the process of trying to find the most cost effective and time efficient way of dealing with the motherboard.
 
Alright, so that tells us it's not a timings issue. Most likely a bad board unless you get around to trying sticks in different slots, unfortunately.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Oh yeah I have 1 stick in currently. It'll be an incredibly long process (16 weeks minimum) to test all combinations. So yeah, I'm trying to figure out the best course of action with mobo.
 
Honestly, I wouldn't do all the combinations, just a few. I'd say if you crash with two different sticks at least in all different slots, it's a bad board.

Regards,

Patrick
 
I overlooked that I can swap my RAM with my girlfriends. I should be able to use her 2 sticks and if I get a crash with them, narrow it down to motherboard even more correct? There's no refund option for me I've just learned. So dealing with the turnaround time is my only option regarding the mobo.
 
Alright first off I'm ashamed of not continuing with the MSI motherboard. I chickened out and threw money at a new motherboard (ASUS Z97-A) in trusting that your findings of the motherboard being faulty was true, and that the RAM is unlikely to be the culprit after its testing an previous use in my old system. This thing has been more stressful than I thought it would be three months ago. Though I feel bad for not going through with the MSI board, I just want to be done with trying to troubleshoot.
 
I'm actually in a similar situation. My motherboard is most likely failing. Although I cannot afford to replace it, I will buy a new computer (I can tell you the story of this machine if you wish) and use that.
As for this computer well, if I save up enough money I might buy a replacement motherboard and figure out a use for this computer, although I do not want to take the risk of throwing money away for nothing.
If I got the new computer first then I will have a fully functioning computer (hopefully) and a faulty one that might be capable of being repaired.

I have an ASUS motherboard, with terrible customer support I'm going with a Gigabyte board next.
 
Yeah I've heard horror stories about Asus support. Can you explain your situation? I was initially weary about buying an Asus board but thought "**** it can't be that bad". You make me scared of it already.

Uhh yeah if I have lots of problems still with the new Asus board I'll probably off myself not gonna lie.
 

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