the original problem was that after a fresh install of Win7 SP1 the computer would not do any windows updates.
I posted the question on sevenforums where various contributors made suggestions
Fresh Win 7 Installed OK but Not Working "Properly" - Windows 7 Help Forums
My notes then say
So I installed from the recommended ISO
then Installed:
1. kb3138612 (x86) - No problem. restarted
2. kb4474419-v3 (x86) - No problem installing. BUT the computer wont restart Wont even go into safe mode.
so I tried again installing
kb3138612 (x86) as before and restarted
kb4490628 (x86) because I read somewhere it is apparently needed
kb4474419-v3 (x86) - Now the install process says "not applicable to this machine"
it was around then that I discovered (from another website) that kb4474419 alters boot.exe which means the computer will not then reboot
So I reinstalled Win7, saved the original boot.exe, installed the kbs as above, then replaced boot.exe and the computer booted just fine.
but there was never any problem installing 4490628 only 4474419
so maybe 4474419 damaged something else?
But there were still problems so I came to SYSNATIVE because you guys seemed to have a more structured approach
I am quite happy to go back and start again with a clean sheet (fresh Win7 Reinstall) and they try to tackle the problem of no windows updates if you think that might make it easier?